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Hello,

I'm starting a new topic on this because the old one I found was from 2016.

Looking for 30Hz capable displays with 4K. I want to invest in a new monitor and I definitely want to try this option finally.

Also what would be needed to make it work at 30Hz? Like I want to simply be able to select it and go. I know the connections are specific (HDMI vs. Display Port) and etc etc.

CPU-i9-9900k

GPU-RTX 2080

Thanks

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Probably better if you posted this in the hardware forum.  I am curious, what is the advantage of 30HZ?  My display runs at 60-70HZ I believe, it is a nine year old LCD monitor that has never given me trouble.  I even have nightmares about someone taking it from me, lol...  It's a Samsung and they build things to last.

John

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I use a Vizio 43" 4K television that supports either 30hz or 60hz depending on which HDMI input you use.

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29 minutes ago, WarpD said:

I use a Vizio 43" 4K television that supports either 30hz or 60hz depending on which HDMI input you use.

Me too. It is beautiful.

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41 minutes ago, WarpD said:

I use a Vizio 43" 4K television that supports either 30hz or 60hz depending on which HDMI input you use.

What does that mean? I'm trying to figure out what connection I have to use.

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52 minutes ago, garymcginnis said:

What does that mean? I'm trying to figure out what connection I have to use.

On the back of the TV, next to the HDMI input is text that tells you whether it runs at 30hz or 60hz.

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Interesting answers!

I always wondered about HiSense and Vizio 4Ks, especially because the price is so much lower than LG or Samsung.  Because I wasn't able to get the specs I needed to know if those brands would work, I went with Samsung who did publish them (all at the time of my purchase a few years ago).

The Samsung 55" 4K I purchased run great at either 30Hz or 60Hz, though it will go to 120Hz which isn't really needed in flight sim.

Regarding size, I'll be the first to say that the 55 inch is too large, and a 40 to 43 inch would have been much better choice.

 

Best wishes my friends!

 

 

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I just received an LG 43" 4K  IPS panel. 43UD79-B. Has Display port and 4 HDMI slots 2x 30HZ and 2 60HZ. Highly recommend this monitor.

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Hdmi 1.4 Supports 30hz on 4k.

Hdmi 2.0 supports 60hz or more on 4k

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I don't know your budget, but based on your CPU/GPU I'd say you probably have a good size budget ... if so, then I would recommend a Sony 4K OLED. 

OLED is truly an amazing image and can operate at significantly higher refresh rates or at very low refresh rates ... night flying with OLED is about as real as it gets, blacks that are truly black and light brightness that can actually make you squint on arrival to an airport with dynamic lights.  Current OLED TV's have overcome the issue of "life span" and will last 100,000 hours ... so say the TV is on for 8 hours a day 365 days a year, that's 2920 hrs/yr ... or about 34 yrs.  The likelihood of me hanging onto a TV for 34 yrs is close to zero ... I think the longest I've had a TV is 6 years ... and with 8K now on the retail market, I smell an upgrade in my near future.

Cheers, Rob.

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3 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

I just received an LG 43" 4K  IPS panel. 43UD79-B. Has Display port and 4 HDMI slots 2x 30HZ and 2 60HZ. Highly recommend this monitor.

I cant decide between this or the Samsung UN43NU6900    The LG is a IPS monitor and the Samsung is a VA panel. Anyone have any suggestions. I presently have a Samsung 40" 4k tv but it is starting to go bad and need to replace it. I was also wondering how good  P3D v4 looks on the LG monitor or will I get more vivid colors with the TV and if I went OLED what about burn in by flying in the cockpit all the time,is that a issue?.  Here are the specs

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I was able to fire up P3D on my old rig, ( only a Asus 970 ) as I am building a new rig at the moment. I can tell you it looked awesome. The panel has very good color range, and it also has multiple split screen options if needed.

 

The remote control is a great bonus. It has heaps of features, and as I have come from a Viewsonic 24", this panel really looks big to me at first, but have got used to the size.

I prefer the IPS panel than to TN or VA, as the screen does not change color or go blurry at different angles.

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Do the motion blur systems work or help with the low frame rate? I know most modern TVs use either some type of processing or black frame insertion to create the “120hz” but wouldn’t that help smooth things out possibly? When I sent a 24 FPS film to my TV, the TV basically adds frames right? Why can’t I send a 30 Hz signal from my computer to my TV have it do post processing magic and look more like 60 hz?

just curious. I legitimately don’t understand how it all works. 

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59 minutes ago, TravelRunner404 said:

Do the motion blur systems work or help with the low frame rate? I know most modern TVs use either some type of processing or black frame insertion to create the “120hz” but wouldn’t that help smooth things out possibly? When I sent a 24 FPS film to my TV, the TV basically adds frames right? Why can’t I send a 30 Hz signal from my computer to my TV have it do post processing magic and look more like 60 hz?

just curious. I legitimately don’t understand how it all works. 

I use to use ULMB (technically wasn't the intended use) on my old gysnc monitor instead of GSYNC and I felt it looked way smoother with it on. I have no clue though.

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Can anyone shed some light on GSync & VSync? and how it's best to utilize them with games? I've researched quite a bit on the net but not everyone seems to be in agreement and how best to use it.

I purchased a 100mhz GSync monitor and enabled it in the NVidia Control panel, yet I can't seem to distinguish any difference. Do I enable VSync in games? (If I don't my GPU stays at 100% load unless I set it to 100FPS or lower). Where does GSync fit in? I still see blurry motion. Should I run lower than 100Hz? I brought it specifically for Prepar3D to remove the motion blurriest as advertised, but it doesn't. AAA title are still blurry when using fast motion. I thought GSync was supposed to get rid of that?

Lol - Sorry for the rant, I get new tech and RTFM and it says nothing.

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When I looked into G-sync I got the impression that it doesn’t work with P3D bc it doesn’t run in true full screen. A lot of the chat on it was pretty dated though. 

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According to the NVidia There is a G-Sync option to enable just for full screen or windows AND full screen, again not seeing what it really is doing. There are tons of YouTube Split Screen Videos and Images showing the difference yet I can't re-create it.

I thought there was a program from NVidia to show your what it does, but doesn't answer the question on when, where and why to enable it with VSync. I know what each individual function is for, but what to do with both together using a 100Hz monitor.

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I personally only ever got GSYNC to work in FSX momentarily back in 2015. I had to turn off all auto gen to do it. The auto gen bug in FSX made me go away from it and ultimately settle on ULMB. However it was never as smooth as I wanted (or the 30Hz smoothness I've seen from others who use it), hence why this topic 🙂

So getting back on subject, it looks like I have to go the TV route with a 1.4 HDMI cable?

This new setup I'm building is suppose to be semi mobile. Is there any other options that don't involve 40+ inches of real estate?

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Hi Folks,

Yeah - I just bought this - I'm still learning the ropes with it - but it does seem to minimize micro stutters - or perhaps it's the placebo effect from spending $600 plus on it... It's certainly a massive and impressive step up from my old Dell 19" 4:3... I'm still not sure how much G-sync helps with FS ? For my view distance (within arms length) - I'd be afraid to go bigger...

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32GK850G-B 32" 6:9 Gaming Monitor

The LG 32GK850G gaming monitor combines an immersive QHD resolution display screen with NVIDIA G-SYNC compatibility, a 144Hz refresh rate, plus a dedicated Game mode and black stabilizer for ultimate domination.

Regards,
Scott

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BenQ PD3200U.  It's a 4K display, 32".   It will do 30hz or 60hz in 4K.   You can visit the website of the maker of any screen you're interested in, to see the modes it will run in.

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20 hours ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

I was also wondering how good  P3D v4 looks on the LG monitor or will I get more vivid colors with the TV and if I went OLED what about burn in by flying in the cockpit all the time,is that a issue?

Yes, burn-in can be a problem with OLED ... if you do a lot of long haul flights and leave the monitor on, you might experience some burn-in.  With the testing I did with my Sony OLED, I would always turn the TV off if I walked away from it and/or was just sitting in cockpit monitoring.  I've moved my Sony OLED back to regular TV duties and currently use my Samsung which is nice, but definitely not as good as Sony OLED.  However, I do plan to move back to Flight simulation with OLED ... the technology is moving fast.

OLED TV's usually have a re-calibration process they automatically go thru every XXX hours (don't know the exact number of hours) and they also have static detection and will dim the TV automatically.  However, with the case of flight simulation it's not "Static" ... there is always something happening so if you never moved your view over a period of several hours then burn-in is a real possibility.  

There is QLED (really LED LCD with quantum dot film), but that's a VERY different technology compared to OLED and OLED visual quality is still considerably better than QLED.  But you are right to be concerned about burn-in, it requires vigilance to avoid when simming.

Cheers, Rob.

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1 hour ago, Rob Ainscough said:

Yes, burn-in can be a problem with OLED ... if you do a lot of long haul flights and leave the monitor on, you might experience some burn-in.  With the testing I did with my Sony OLED, I would always turn the TV off if I walked away from it and/or was just sitting in cockpit monitoring.  I've moved my Sony OLED back to regular TV duties and currently use my Samsung which is nice, but definitely not as good as Sony OLED.  However, I do plan to move back to Flight simulation with OLED ... the technology is moving fast.

OLED TV's usually have a re-calibration process they automatically go thru every XXX hours (don't know the exact number of hours) and they also have static detection and will dim the TV automatically.  However, with the case of flight simulation it's not "Static" ... there is always something happening so if you never moved your view over a period of several hours then burn-in is a real possibility.  

There is QLED (really LED LCD with quantum dot film), but that's a VERY different technology compared to OLED and OLED visual quality is still considerably better than QLED.  But you are right to be concerned about burn-in, it requires vigilance to avoid when simming.

Cheers, Rob.

Thanks that is what I thought. There kind of out of my price range right now and I want to upgrade my aging 4790K computer next yr. I think I have decided on the Sony XBR 43x800e which I can get for about $550 on sale which is in about my budget and I think it has the best screen in its category. Josh

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Can someone tell me if this monitor can do 30Hz or how to do it. I checked the website but they only advertise 60Hz.

LG 27UK600-W HDR IPS LED 4K

edit:

According to Best Buy the Samsung U28E590D is with a 1.4 connector. I want to confirm that with anyone in the know.

Thanks

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