February 5, 20197 yr Have the 9th Generation Intel i7-8086k, MSI GTX 1080Ti and am contemplating a motherboard for it. I'd like to seek advice/opinions/suggestions,et al, here from fellow experienced hardware-orientated simmers I have ruled out anything that carries the name Gigabyte, so please do not even mention it to me, please. After their diabolical support with replacing a goofed GPU, in Ca., of all places, I will not touch any of their products with a barge-pole! Have read up on the Asus Prime Z390 9th Generation, as it has PS/2 rear connectors which is what I want. Asides from the niceties of how this or any other motherboard performs, at the end of the day, what is this motherboard's good/better features? Can the CPU be either air-cooled or water-cooled? Can it hold a good steady o/c like my current Asus Z-87-A has done with an i5-4670k o/c'd, air-cooled, for years now? Thanks for the advice/opinions/suggestions I hope I will get. Rick Almeida
February 5, 20197 yr These days everyone likes to overclock so a board that has better capacitors is always advantageous. I use an ASRock board with a 9900k and am very happy with it. Check out youtube for many other ideas and reviews.
February 5, 20197 yr I have the same CPU with an asus rog maximus X code. I get a 30% overclock with a corsair liquid CPU cooler, turning off multi-core enhancment (MCE) in UEFI and running AI suite config with HT enabled. 32% with HT disabled (though I haven't rerun that for HT disabled since a bios update). still runs cool and quiet. obviously other components (and luck) make a difference. Edited February 5, 20197 yr by jpf
February 5, 20197 yr Author 31 minutes ago, jpf said: same CPU with an asus rog maximus X code Thanks, but I don't think it has PS/2 rear I/O. Rick Almeida
February 5, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, jpf said: assuming a ps/2 to usb converter is no use, can I ask what you're connecting? That is not the point. I have built so many systems since 1996, and 9 times out of 10, when resolving an USB interface issue, such as when I delete every single USB item under USB controllers, I thank my lucky stars I still have a PS/2 keyboard and mouse to resolve USB connectivity issues, which is why I do want a PS/2 motherboard. I know all about PS/2 to USB converters. Rick Almeida
February 5, 20197 yr I know exactly what you're talking about but I haven't seen those sort of issues since PCIe took over from PCI. in the server environment, I've always been very impressed with super-micro boards. they have always had a PS/2 fallback on board. I see now that they have moved into the enthusiast arena with a range of super-micro gaming boards. I've seen a review or two which indicate they have carried over their enterprise quality components and build into gaming. they're not the 'fastest' but I wouldn't doubt their stability. good luck with your search. Edited February 5, 20197 yr by jpf
February 5, 20197 yr 6 hours ago, vc10man said: Have the 9th Generation Intel i7-8086k, MSI GTX 1080Ti and am contemplating a motherboard for it. I'd like to seek advice/opinions/suggestions,et al, here from fellow experienced hardware-orientated simmers I have ruled out anything that carries the name Gigabyte, so please do not even mention it to me, please. After their diabolical support with replacing a goofed GPU, in Ca., of all places, I will not touch any of their products with a barge-pole! Have read up on the Asus Prime Z390 9th Generation, as it has PS/2 rear connectors which is what I want. Asides from the niceties of how this or any other motherboard performs, at the end of the day, what is this motherboard's good/better features? Can the CPU be either air-cooled or water-cooled? Can it hold a good steady o/c like my current Asus Z-87-A has done with an i5-4670k o/c'd, air-cooled, for years now? Thanks for the advice/opinions/suggestions I hope I will get. The PS/2 port is going to limit your choices. IMO in the z390 class the Asus boards are lackluster over clockers. It’s a shame u had such a bad experience with Gigabyte as there z390 boards are excellent. Very good value as well. But I do understand where you are coming from. I would look at AsRock. Matt Wilson
February 6, 20197 yr I'm happy with the ASUS Maximus XI Hero (running the 8086K at 5.3GHz on water). It does have a PS/2 connector...but really, a USB-to-PS/2 adapter is like $5, so I wouldn't think twice about letting that limit my choices. It overclocked easily, has a good, flexible BIOS, and the temps on the voltage regulators and chipset heatsinks (measured with a Fluke IR thermometer) are running fairly cool on air. The 6/8-core CPUs with aggressive overclocks are going to load up the power delivery circuits more than the previous generations of quad cores. The Prime is a bit of a lightweight in that department, which is why I went with the Maximus series. There was a lot of noise and heat in the overclocking community about phase counts, but when the rubber hits the road, the board runs stable and cool at significant overclocks. Regards Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 6, 20197 yr 53 minutes ago, w6kd said: I'm happy with the ASUS Maximus XI Hero Glad it's working well for you. My third XI Hero seems to be a keeper... the first two went Tango Uniform in two weeks. Been building systems with ASUS motherboards for 25 years, but a few weeks ago I built a 9900K based system on a ASRock Z390 Taichi that easily overclocked to 5.1 GHz on air. Nice motherboard... well designed, solids components, OK manual, and very easy to configure once you push the GO button the first time. Greg
February 6, 20197 yr Author 7 hours ago, mpw8679 said: The PS/2 port is going to limit your choices. IMO in the z390 class the Asus boards are lackluster over clockers. It’s a shame u had such a bad experience with Gigabyte as there z390 boards are excellent. Very good value as well. But I do understand where you are coming from. I would look at AsRock. Thanks, Matt, yeah, I was reading up on an ASRock board too. 6 hours ago, w6kd said: ASUS Maximus XI Hero Is it a Z370 or a Z390 board, Bob? 6 hours ago, w6kd said: USB-to-PS/2 adapter is like $5, You missed the point I made earlier, where I have had to uninstall the USB controllers, every one of them, to resolve a USB connection problem, and without at PS/w2 keyboard or mouse, to scroll through each USB controller, I'd be floundering relying on an USB input when my whole aim is to flush out the USB connections to the board. 6 hours ago, w6kd said: Prime is a bit of a Noted, Bob. Thanks 5 hours ago, lownslo said: third XI Hero s That vouches for it. Rick Almeida
February 6, 20197 yr I have the Prime-P although it is the Z370 version. It's their lower end board, but got my 8700k to 5.0ghz without issue. I only paid about £95 for it. P3D v4.5 MSFS2020 Hisense 50" 4K TV Ryzen 9600x 64gb DDR5 6000mhz, Asrock B650m HDV/M.2 Gigabyte 16gb 9070XT, Thermalright Aqua Elite 240mm 2TB NVMe Boot/FS2020 Drive, 2TB NVMe P3D Drive. Saitek Yoke, Pedals, Radio Panel, Switch Panel, 2 x FiPs
February 6, 20197 yr Author 1 hour ago, Charlatan said: I have the Prime-P although it is the Z370 version. It's their lower end board, but got my 8700k to 5.0ghz without issue. I only paid about £95 for it. Thanks for that, Charlatan. £95 is a steal, but moreover you managed 5.0GHz with no issues. Will bear that in mind. Rick Almeida
February 6, 20197 yr I have the Maximus X Code also. Fantastic motherboard, but no, sadly for you Rick, no PS/2. I'm a fan of Asus boards, I know some say they have has issues with Asus but i still have no issues with them. However.... do check out EVGA motherboards, really great motherboards and fantastic EVGA support. Z390 Dark is a great motherboard and does have a PS/2 port. Expensive though. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=131-CS-E399-KR Asus Tuf Z390, Z390 Pro Gaming, and one or two others have PS/2 ports.
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