I've used Hardy Heinlin PSX for years.

Am I going to be dissapointed in the PMDG 747?

For instance, how accurately does the Autopilot manage to follow the predicted route - the pink line through tighter turns etc.

How good is the autothrust control? Do you get overspeeds, and overshoots of target speeds?

I love the look of the PMDG stuff, but I don't want to buy one and then find the avionics are a bit 'loose' compared with what I'm used to.

 

PMDG's 747 automation is as smooth and accurate as any I've ever seen in flight simulation.

 

Thanks

I have both. You won't be disappointed - and you get a view out the window 👍

I also have both, but after trying out the different options for some time, I enjoy using PSX with P3D (via PSX.net external sim) for the windshield view and external views most.

The virtual cockpit is nice, especially if you only have one monitor. But if you have two (or even better three) monitors, I still think PSX's 2D Cockpit layouts are much more efficient and also offer a better readability.

Edited April 2, 20197 yr by Airboeing

Good stuff. Thanks. I have 5 monitors! 🤣

I have both and depending on how much they cost and what are you looking for you have to make a big decision right there.

One is sold to the airlines (PSX) and used as a CBT (computer based trainer) one is not.

Both have certain bugs (who doesn't).

Now depends on the taste I like PMDG cockpit interior and exterior model. The virtual cockpit is a plus on PMDG while PSX is a little of pain trying to adjust each individual cockpit module.

What I don't like for sure is the flight controls section assigning sensitivity for axes on PSX. I prefer P3D (LM) 1000 times over PSX. Certain controllers will give you a limited adjustment.

At the same time, I don't like the idea depending on additional software like P3D which has lots of problems with every update, they have issues (it's not a stable platform, yet).

PSX is a very stable platform, doesn't depend on any other add on (except if you want to use PSX.net) and not susceptible to brake and incompatibilities when there is another P3D update as an example. 

PSX doesn't have a nice external view, PSX is much smoother by design.

To be honest, you have to think very carefully and decide what you need it for because both have certain issues, like any other software.

Good luck with this difficult decision.  

I probably didn't make it clear, I have PSX and know it's strengths. I'm more wondering if PMDG will be a frustration after PSX?

What motivated me to buy PSX was the accuracy of the simulation of the FD and other instruments, and the systems which support flight, like electric and hydraulics.

I'm assuming PMDG doesn't go as deep into the supporting systems, but I would soon lose interest if the FD/AP/MCP stuff wasn't accurate and smooth.

Can you comment on that side of PMDG?

PMDG goes as deep as you can get into the systems. That is what makes their product so expensive. Every system, every failure is simulated.

I wonder if PMDG simulated the one faulty page in the FMC which needs a double press of the EXE button to action the page, and which was never corrected by Boeing due to the costs of re-testing and recertifying any changes to the software? I'm not bothered, just asking.

PSX simulates this Boeing bug. 😀

Which page would that be? I could check it for you.

I can't remember now as it's been a long time since I came across it.

I was just amused when I reported it to HH and he responded by saying he was simulating a Boeing bug. 🙂

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

PMDG goes as deep as you can get into the systems. That is what makes their product so expensive. Every system, every failure is simulated.

What happened when you pulled the "Stick Shaker" circuit breaker? 🙂

Is it still the case that there are no circuit breakers simulated in PMDG?

 

 

With the PMDG 74 Items and systems are failed either as an immediate or timed failure through pages on the FMC rather than pulling breakers