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Looks like the new Yoko+ yoke came out a couple weeks ago...  any Avsimmers have one and care to comment?

 

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I ordered one from Virtual-Fly and it arrived on Monday of this week.

Very impressed with the precision and feel of the controls. Quite a bit more accurate than my faithful CH Eclipse yoke that I have had for years. Expensive but for me, well worth the price.

Lyn

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How much rotation and pitch travel is there on the new version?

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23 hours ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

Here is a review of it from A2As test pilot Dudley Henriques

https://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=67881

Thanks;  that's a helpful review!

Not sure about the dismissal of force feedback controls later in the thread;  the discussion gets derailed with complaints about "force feedback joysticks", and not really with how the Brunner CLS-E stacks up against the new Yoko+ (if you're going to spend large sums of money on an input device in the first place!).

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57 minutes ago, AustinLonghorn said:

Thanks;  that's a helpful review!

Not sure about the dismissal of force feedback controls later in the thread;  the discussion gets derailed with complaints about "force feedback joysticks", and not really with how the Brunner CLS-E stacks up against the new Yoko+ (if you're going to spend large sums of money on an input device in the first place!).

IF you can make it to the Flightsim show in Orlando there will be about 5 different yokes on display at different price points ($200 to $1000) I haven't tried any of them except the Yoko which I have so cant give you any feedback on the others. I have had mine for a year now including the TQ6+ and its one of the best investments I made in this Hobby. I'm saving up for the Ruddo pedals as I don't like my crosswinds anymore. There are some other reviews out there on FF yokes but I found it was a mixed bag on opinions. You wont be disappointed in spending big bucks on input devices as they really add to the immersion and plastic doesn't cut it for me anymore.  I don't understand people who spend big money on there computers and then cheeping out on plastic controllers. Josh

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1 hour ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

I don't understand people who spend big money on there computers and then cheeping out on plastic controllers.

I wish it were that simple.  You can't do ANYTHING well without having a reasonable computer, so to my mind that's a base level purchase - a necessity for entry into a quality simming experience.  I make do with a cheaper yoke because it's hard to justify the huge jump in cost when balanced against other needs/wants, and what I want is very expensive indeed.

I read Dudley Henriques' review with great interest when he first wrote it, as I've always felt the only feature which would make a next-level yoke worth it to me would be a high quality force-feedback setup like the Brunner, so that's what I've been holding out for.  I admit I'm still skeptical that I'd be satisfied with anything less.  As a RW GA pilot, I have some pretty strong opinions as to what would make a sim yoke feel "real".  But his review was intriguing, as I certainly respect his level of knowledge and experience.  If anyone hasn't read it yet, do yourself a favor and do so.

Scott

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5 hours ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

IF you can make it to the Flightsim show in Orlando there will be about 5 different yokes on display at different price points ...

Have definitely considered that, but hotel, airfare, etc., is about $600 I could spend toward a new yoke :)

 

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1 hour ago, AustinLonghorn said:

Have definitely considered that, but hotel, airfare, etc., is about $600 I could spend toward a new yoke 🙂

 

If you live in Texas i am in Houston near the space center you can try mine, Also in Austin is Redbird Simulations which have a yoke. I don't no how good they are? Thrustmaster has a contest for a free trip and tickets to the flightsim show plus one free product.  Josh

https://simulators.redbirdflight.com/products/topic/home-simulator-controls

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On 4/25/2019 at 3:04 PM, FreeBird(Josh) said:

If you live in Texas i am in Houston near the space center you can try mine, Also in Austin is Redbird Simulations which have a yoke. I don't no how good they are? Thrustmaster has a contest for a free trip and tickets to the flightsim show plus one free product.  Josh

https://simulators.redbirdflight.com/products/topic/home-simulator-controls

Thanks for the heads up on the Thrustmaster contest.

Seems Redbird will also be at the FlightSimExpo, but haven't seen any mention of Brunner so far (for side by side comparisons of all the yokes).

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On 4/25/2019 at 10:04 PM, FreeBird(Josh) said:

Thrustmaster has a contest for a free trip and tickets to the flightsim show plus one free product.

I cannot find the contest on the web. Can you show a link to it? Thanks.

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Posted (edited)

A little OT, but glad to see a couple of other Texas simmers here.   I'm in Houston.  Oh, and BTW, I recently bought a Yoko+, but haven't installed it yet (tomorrow, I think).

Jeff Smith

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recently purchased the Yoko Plus, must say a whole new experience compared to my previous Saitek Cessna yoke. the start (take off) and landing in particular feel very realistic, correct trim setting is important here.  Also during the flight itself it is a great difference with my previous yoke much more realistic!  Do not regret the expensive purchase, all in all a good investment and adds a lot to a more realistic flight simulator experience in P3Dv4. setup was easy using FSUIPC.

 

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Have been seriously considering purchasing the Yoko + for a while now. As I have the Virtual Fly TQ6, they have offered a 15% discount on the Yoke. The full price plus shipping before the discount is $Aus 1,900. I am using a Cessna Yoke at present, and it has no inherent problem as such. A difficult decision to make.

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The Yoko + cannot be compared with the Saitek Cessna Yoke, it is a world of difference.  Whether it is worth the investment is difficult to answer, that is a personal opinion.  I myself had no problems with the Cessna Yoke, but the Yoko + gives a more realistic experience, especially with VFR flights with GA planes.

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Couple of (rather grainy, high ISO) photos from FSExpo of the Yoko+ PLUS yoke:

yoko-1.jpg

yoko-2.jpg

This is at the stops (doesn't hit 90 degrees like the Saitek Cessna yoke, for example).

 

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Installed into their Solo A setup.

 

yoko-4.jpg

New hat switch on the left (and also available in a "first officer" edition, with the hat switch on the right).

 

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Side profile, installed into one of their panels.

 

It's a preeeetty smooth yoke, I'll have to say.

 

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Accidentally posted without actually saying anything, hah

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"This is at the stops (doesn't hit 90 degrees like the Saitek Cessna yoke, for example)."

Don't understand the above quote. I have the Cessna yoke, and it certainly doesn't hit 90° 

 

 

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Yoko seems like to notch One, but considering the price Tag of $1,200, I would not compromised on less than FF that will get me closer to the real things as possible, something that get me the real immersion and impact of Cross-Wind Ground Effect, turbulence etc, things that I can expect from FF Yoke..... The Brunner CLS-NG is the one in my periscope, the problem, no reviews, not enough feedbacks from users  

Cheers 

Yair 

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2 hours ago, Freo said:

"This is at the stops (doesn't hit 90 degrees like the Saitek Cessna yoke, for example)."

Don't understand the above quote. I have the Cessna yoke, and it certainly doesn't hit 90° 

 

 

I have the Saitek Cessna Yoke and it has the Full 90 Degree aileron movement....That was the point of the product.

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11 hours ago, Freo said:

Don't understand the above quote. I have the Cessna yoke, and it certainly doesn't hit 90° 

 

 

I just double-checked my Saitek Cessna yoke, and it definitely hits 90 degrees (just like the real thing).

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9 hours ago, N1125Y said:

Yoko seems like to notch One, but considering the price Tag of $1,200, I would not compromised on less than FF that will get me closer to the real things as possible, something that get me the real immersion and impact of Cross-Wind Ground Effect, turbulence etc, things that I can expect from FF Yoke..... The Brunner CLS-NG is the one in my periscope, the problem, no reviews, not enough feedbacks from users  

Concur;  I wish the Brunner folks had made the trip to FSExpo, because there were plenty of yokes - Diagma, Honeycomb, Virtual Fly, Redbird, a handful of Saitek Cessna and loads of the regular Saitek/Logitech yokes - to then directly compare against.

The CLS-NG unfortunately has half the elevator travel of the CLS-E (which bumps it up to EUR 1,900, d'oh).

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+1 with you Austin. Somehow I got the felling that focusing on the Commercial Professional  Market & they, for a reason known only to them, do not really care about the retail and the end Simmer User market niche. Hopefully, some day they will change thiere attitude 

Not sure why some other manufacturer doesn't move in to develop FF Yoke after most of us aware and agree that highest level of immersion and realism can be achieved only with FF Apparatus    

About the Yoke Travelling, well, I thing, and considering that you can customize it, that for GA the NG will be a perfect match.

 

Cheers 

 

Yair 

 

 

 

 

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So I pulled the trigger on a YOKO Yoke Plus;  super-fast shipping and it arrived today!

I'm really bummed, though - there's no x-axis movement at all on the device (as if that sensor isn't even connected?), and also some internal grinding noise.  The A/P disconnect button assembly was also just dangling out of the device.  Going to reach out to Virtual Fly to see what the next step is.  Not at all what I expected at this price point.

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Wouldn't think Virtual Fly would have shipped it in that condition, sounds like a lot of shipping damage to me. Am very close to getting one myself.

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