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Nvidia Image Sharpening

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12 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I don’t know but are values lower than default making it not less sharp than before ?

Correct.  With the 0.50, it was oversharpened significantly.  0.25 gave me sharper autogen, scenery, etc. than without it checked, but within realistic reason.

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2 minutes ago, medx421 said:

Correct.  With the 0.50, it was oversharpened significantly.  0.25 gave me sharper autogen, scenery, etc. than without it checked, but within realistic reason.

2K or 4K

Here I use 4K but cannot see a difference using the default values...

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1 minute ago, GSalden said:

2K or 4K

Here I use 4K but cannot see a difference using the default values...

2K

36 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I don’t know but are values lower than default making it not less sharp than before ?

No, those values you mean are only "default" for the sharpening. Default in regard of the rendering is no sharpening at all, means the whole function inactive ;-)

Maybe I find some time on the weekend to play around with this image sharpening and the upscaling, I am really interested how this will look on my 1440p panel...

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

41 minutes ago, AnkH said:

No, those values you mean are only "default" for the sharpening. Default in regard of the rendering is no sharpening at all, means the whole function inactive 😉

Maybe I find some time on the weekend to play around with this image sharpening and the upscaling, I am really interested how this will look on my 1440p panel...

Looking forward to your findings.

 

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Digging around in the net to get more information on this upscaling my confusion grows. Could it be that this feature is only available for the RTX cards?

Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

2 hours ago, AnkH said:

Honestly, I can still not believe that this makes a hell lot of a difference for a modern 5GHz CPU.

Absolutely agree, that is makes NOT a "hell lot of a difference". But sometimes even very little performance improvements can make the difference for a smoother experience. I have in use a very powerfull system with an I9 overclocked, but i can easily crunch it down with P3D if i put the the sliders to the far right and get just a slideshow. Don´t misunderstand this feature as "the magic trick" that blows all issues with stutters away. It´s just another little tweak.

 

2 hours ago, AnkH said:

Means: I am almost 100% sure that an image rendered at 1024x768 and upscaled to FullHD and beyond simply lacks details

Could be, but i can´t notice even the smallest lack of detail compared to if i set the resolution in P3D higher without upscaling. Look at the videos i´ve uploaded. The quality is the same that i get if i set the the Full HD resolution directly in P3D. And haven´t notice any tearing, flickering or anything else.  But what i´ve noticed is that the distant view on small objects like taxiwaysigns or tw-lights is a little more clear, what come from the sharpening. The other finding for me is, that with the upscaling active the microstutters of scenery integrated and moving objects like the airportbus and van has complete gone.

As i said, even without the upscaling my SIM runs already smoot as silk, no matter if i am in a highdense scenery like AS Frankfurt, Heathrow or Madrid. What comes, of course from the I9 and HT off. But i could notice little microstutters of those moving sceneryobjects (not GSX) especially if they where passing your view. With upscaling a can´t notice those microstutters anymore and even this small improvement cuts another little edge on a perfect circle for me. 

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Bernd

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I agree, those videos look totally "normal". You also never noticed any image artifacts on the AI traffic textures? And for you it is working in fullscreen mode? Could you include a video where you show the 1024x768 resolution selected in P3D? The thing that baffles me in your video is the red info text on the upper left and lower left side. When I was playing around with DSR, this text was never scaled accordingly, means with 4K scaled to 1440p, it was really small, with lower resolution the text gets really big. Yours in contrast look like it should look on FullHD and I wonder how this can be, on 1024x768, this red info text should be way bigger and I have no idea how the upscaler should "know" that the info text should be smaller... Same goes for the menue, btw, this simply does not look like it should look at 1024x768.

Sorry if this sounds nasty, but the longer I watch those videos, especially the second one, I can not get rid of the impression that what you have is not really an upscaled image but somehow P3D ignores the 1024x768 resolution and keeps the FullHD resolution. You are absolutely sure you have an upscaled image there?

But all guessing, as I still not had time to test this on my end...

EDIT: ok, according to the LM Forums, P3D does support menue and info text scaling. Still it looks somehow odd to me...

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Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

33 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Sorry if this sounds nasty, but the longer I watch those videos, especially the second one, I can not get rid of the impression that what you have is not really an upscaled image but somehow P3D ignores the 1024x768 resolution and keeps the FullHD resolution. You are absolutely sure you have an upscaled image there?

Well, honestly, i was well surprised too, when i saw those upscaled imaging. What ever may do this on performance or not, it´s impressive somehow anyway. I will provide another video trying to show that the resolution set in P3D is really downgraded, so that you´ll see i´am not an illusionist.😉 It came in my mind too, that maybe this is just an illusion well performed by NVIDIA in just ignoring the downgraded resolution set in P3D. But on the other hand, with my own job experience about what is technically possible within CGI and Imagemanipulation it does makes sense.

Look, in my company we are using very expensive CAD 3D-contruction software on just more expensive Highend-workstations where each single NVidia Quadro GPU alone cost about 6.000 EUR. We do also constructive 3D-realtime-rendering and Photoreal 3D-rendering. More as a hobby beside Simming, me myself, working on Imagemanipulation and CGI-3D animation with Photoshop, Lightroom, Blender etc. Many times i get really impressed what´s really possible today.      

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Bernd

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2 hours ago, AnkH said:

Digging around in the net to get more information on this upscaling my confusion grows. Could it be that this feature is only available for the RTX cards?

I have the 2080 and 2080Ti

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32 minutes ago, GSalden said:

I have the 2080 and 2080Ti

And how exactly does this answer my question about if rescaling is possible on RTX cards only? ;-)

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Greetings, Chris

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024

If i have 2K inside P3D and 4K in W10 but if i choose this upscaling my P3D main screen is a little one (around 50% of the screen)

Is this normal ?

Michael Moe

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3 hours ago, AnkH said:

Durch Stöbern im Netz, um mehr Informationen über diese Aufwertung zu erhalten, wächst meine Verwirrung. Könnte es sein, dass diese Funktion nur für die RTX-Karten verfügbar ist?

I have 1080Ti, can select it in NCVP and it works. I scale from 1024x768 to 2K!

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1 hour ago, Michael Moe said:

If i have 2K inside P3D and 4K in W10 but if i choose this upscaling my P3D main screen is a little one (around 50% of the screen)

Is this normal ?

Michael Moe

No it´s not. You need to set in the upscaling settings to Fullscreen and desktop expansion. I can´t say what is the setting exactly in englisch because i have the german version of the controlpanel.

Bernd

P3D V6 -  PC spec: Intel i9-9900 overclocked 5 GHz HT off, 32 GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX3090 24GB, 2xM2 SSD, Skalarki HomeCockpit and Jeehell FMGS on a dedicated Server, PF3 for ATC, MCE, GSX, EFB, AS+ASCA+ENV and OrbXpf3-supporter.gif

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

And how exactly does this answer my question about if rescaling is possible on RTX cards only? 😉

😀😜

As i understand from NVidia, only the Touring Chip has the complete bandwith of features like Raytracing and KI-Upscaling could mean that generally it works with GTX cards, but maybe not as perfect as with RTX cards.

Bernd

P3D V6 -  PC spec: Intel i9-9900 overclocked 5 GHz HT off, 32 GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX3090 24GB, 2xM2 SSD, Skalarki HomeCockpit and Jeehell FMGS on a dedicated Server, PF3 for ATC, MCE, GSX, EFB, AS+ASCA+ENV and OrbXpf3-supporter.gif

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