Petition: Compatibility Mode for XP Aircraft

[Greazer 1,347]

I think MSFT/Asobo should have a small team explore the development of a compatibility mode for XP Aircraft.

1. There are tonnes of quality freeware and payware XP aircraft, which would be a shame to see go to "waste".

2. Many thousands of XP users will be enticed to buy MSFS 2020 which will boost sales.

3. It brings more developers to MSFS platform.

4. It creates more available aircraft and better competition and prices for users.

5. The pro's far outweigh the development costs. In terms of priorities it's up there with VR or even higher.

Edited November 10, 2019 by Greazer

[Paraffin 2,197]

Carenado has to convert their aircraft developed first for FSX/P3d to X-Plane by having a 3rd party (Thranda) create the entire flight model and systems modeling from scratch, because the two sims are so different. As I understand it, the only thing used from the Carenado FSX/P3D versions are the 3D models, textures, and sound files. The underlying aircraft is pure X-Plane, built from scratch and tested for accuracy (no small thing). 

Since the Carenado FSX/P3D models are likely to be far closer to the system used in the new MSFS, I'd say the chances for this are basically zero. Not to mention the copyright and EULA issues that could be involved in something that automatically imported XP11 aircraft. 

Let's enjoy each different sim for what they bring to the table, okay?

It's good to have options, and I expect X-Plane will have options not available in MSFS for quite a while yet in the available aircraft fleet (especially helicopters). 

Edited November 10, 2019 by Paraffin

[Noodle 626]

No thanks.

[HughesMDflyer4 470]

No thanks, I'd rather let Asobo develop a more modern SDK based on what's best for their engine instead of relying on the direction of X-Plane. There would likely be significant overhead from a compatibility layer like this on top of the existing core. Not to mention, I doubt Laminar would let this go for very long without putting an end to it.

XP is a constantly moving platform, and it wouldn't make sense for Asobo to have to maintain essentially two SDKs. I'd love to know where you get the idea that the pros far outweigh the cons, and how you came to the conclusion that this is such an insanely high priority.

[JRBarrett 3,124]

As Paraffin said, all you would get by doing a conversion would be the graphical aircraft models. The underlying systems, flight dynamic and engine physics are done in completely different and incompatible ways in XP vs. FS. 

There are a few hints (based on comments from MS/Asobo developers) at least some of the aircraft physics in the new MSFS might be done in a way that is similar to how XP currently emulates flight dynamics, but probably not enough to make any kind if automatic conversion feasible.

[GCBraun 2,420]

While I`d love to have some aircraft from XP like the FJS 727, 737-200 and the IXEG 737-300, this makes no sense from a technical perspective.

Edited November 10, 2019 by GCBraun

[b737800 470]

No thanks, unless it can be done without cost or burden to the new stuff in FS, which it cannot. I'd rather have all manpower dedicated to creating new and incredible things, rather than hamfisting old tech into something new and shiny.

It is up to the content developers to stay with the times, not for the simulator creator to hold back.

[GCBraun 2,420]

Well, some of the old FSX tech has been confirmed to be part of MSFS. 

[Dominique_K 10,152]

No thanks. It does not make sense.

[Julkensen 47]

Its like asking microsoft to make the xbox compatible with playstation games that's not going to happen.

The new fs20 should also cut all ties with the  old ESP¨plateform even if it means it would take longer for old addons to be compatible with the new sim. The main concern should be performance. I've had enough of the 15 fps slideshow, now is the chance to change that.

[Noooch 1,084]

This is not going to happen I think but it would have been interesting at least for 1 thing:

Porting the FREE 737-800 Zibo Mod into MSFS to compete with the 139$ PMDG and see how many cows PMDG will be able to milk in this situation.

[Dominique_K 10,152]

8 minutes ago, Noooch said:

This is not going to happen I think but it would have been interesting at least for 1 thing:

Porting the FREE 737-800 Zibo Mod into MSFS to compete with the 139$ PMDG and see how many cows PMDG will be able to milk in this situation.

Fly chinese, fly iFly 😇 😁

[smoothchat 99]

Perhaps this would be an opportunity for a 3rd party app (for the model), however any aircraft with LUA or C++ code would be virtually impossible to migrate in any automated fashion. Just the absence of XP datarefs would be a major problem.

Edited November 10, 2019 by smoothchat

[rocketlaunch 617]

Why not just keep using them in Xplane? I was constantly told that XP was the future?

 

 

Edited November 10, 2019 by rocketlaunch

[188AHC 2,141]

This is ridiculous.   This the same as saying, "I want Chevy parts to work on my Ford".