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Just now, Kaiii3 said:

simple: Have you check Bing around the globe? There are a lot of areas you do not want the data from Bing 😉

They aren't using the data you see on Bing map. They have access to much newer, different data, stuff they also use for the professional side of things. Plus, data that has been post-processed heavily to rectify any issues.

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Just now, fakeflyer737 said:

I understand that and youre right but its also being updated all the time and MS has a means of filling those gaps 

and with what kind of data? default data so there are still lots of areas addon developers can start adding custom LC/Photo Scenery


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An OLC Asia release this year always seemed like a big ask to create from scratch and complete the project in just 5 months.

OLC Africa had a lot of development work already done before it was postponed again. Then, even with the extra resources thrown at it, the beta is late according to them. A pre-Christmas release would be great, but I'm not counting on it.

OLC is old tech. With falling sales due to MSFS on the horizon, TrueEarth is their big play for our money. Therefore I understand the rationale for the decision to cancel Asia even though I don't like it.

What I really don't like and find extremely disappointing is to be told that a team would immediately start working on it back in July, only to now be told work didn't start at all. That affects my future purchases with them, as my trust in their comments has been harmed.

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2 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said:

or they just wanted to push sales and jumped on the hypetrain....

Every developer is going to promote their products to the best of there ability but I mean come on havent you watched the videos?


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1 minute ago, Sethos said:

They aren't using the data you see on Bing map. They have access to much newer, different data, stuff they also use for the professional side of things. Plus, data that has been post-processed heavily to rectify any issues.

You know this how? And where is the proof of this 'new data' in their promo videos? AFAIK there source is Bing only and believe me, there are parts of the world where Bing ortho looks much worse than landclass scenery.

Too much word not allowed stuff about MSFS here, let's wait until they run out of pretty photogrammetry cities to show us. What then?

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2 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said:

and with what kind of data? default data so there are still lots of areas addon developers can start adding custom LC/Photo Scenery

MS claimed the are updating  48000 airports so I am assuming theyd have the landclass terrain worked out already in areas that lack coverage


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Just now, fakeflyer737 said:

Every developer is going to promote their products to the best of there ability but I mean come on havent you watched the videos?

I have check the videos, but that is more shine and show for now (see many big other AAA Games). For me as a developer MSFS is a big black hole at the moment, and it seems that it is harming developments of addon for current running Platforms (even before it is released)

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1 minute ago, fta2017 said:

You know this how? And where is the proof of this 'new data' in their promo videos? AFAIK there source is Bing only and believe me, there are parts of the world where Bing ortho looks much worse than landclass scenery.

Too much word not allowed stuff about MSFS here, let's wait until they run out of pretty photogrammetry cities to show us. What then?

We have 160 cities so far, theyre being added and updated constantly, its a start. 


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2 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said:

I have check the videos, but that is more shine and show for now (see many big other AAA Games). For me as a developer MSFS is a big black hole at the moment, and it seems that it is harming developments of addon for current running Platforms (even before it is released)

This is how software works, its always moving and changing. Devs may have to retool and thats going to be hard but the future looks bright. 


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Just now, fta2017 said:

You know this how? And where is the proof of this 'new data' in their promo videos? AFAIK there source is Bing only and believe me, there are parts of the world where Bing ortho looks much worse than landclass scenery.

Too much word not allowed stuff about MSFS here, let's wait until they run out of pretty photogrammetry cities to show us. What then?

Because I've followed the information released and various discussions 🙂 People have made numerous of comparisons between current Bing data and areas shown in trailers and videos, with stark contrast between them. Plus, Azure Maps / Bing Professional is a thing, data that to my understanding, is not on the publicly available Bing maps. There is not just a single source of Bing data.

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3 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Because I've followed the information released and various discussions 🙂 People have made numerous of comparisons between current Bing data and areas shown in trailers and videos, with stark contrast between them. Plus, Azure Maps / Bing Professional is a thing, data that to my understanding, is not on the publicly available Bing maps. There is not just a single source of Bing data.

Good point 


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All this speculation depends on the assumption that from the release date of the new simulator, no one

will use any of the existing simulators or wish to buy payware addons for them.

That concept is preposterous, evidenced by the still thriving community of those who still use Fs9 and 10.

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20 minutes ago, Kaiii3 said:

simple: Have you check Bing around the globe? There are a lot of areas you do not want the data from Bing 😉

Indeed. Even the MFS shot I saw of Sydney would well leave room for an ORBX Australia v3 regional (yes) scenery or at least CityScape. Now, Asobo may improve Sydney until release, but that's Sydney as an iconic place and we've not seen much of Australia elsewhere.

And yes, ORBX did several radical 180-degree-turns over the years, and not all to the better. While I can understand their present situation, I admit feeling frustrated (which I am sure no one cares about) as I was looking for a decent representation of Japan - finally - after years of waiting. ORBX could have made a fortune with OpenLC Africa + Asia a couple of years or so ago, when they decided to shift focus for regions to XP and left long-standing loyal P3D customers in the dark.

And, btw., has anyone of you seen a place in Japan in MFS yet? Maybe it's just at the end of the line. Again.

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18 minutes ago, fta2017 said:

You know this how? And where is the proof of this 'new data' in their promo videos? AFAIK there source is Bing only and believe me, there are parts of the world where Bing ortho looks much worse than landclass scenery.

Too much word not allowed stuff about MSFS here, let's wait until they run out of pretty photogrammetry cities to show us. What then?

Thank you.

You beat me to it.

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word not allowed. Was looking forward to flying the Level D 757 over OLC Asia.

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