November 26, 20196 yr Hey all, easy question: I currently have WFSS' ZBAA, but see that A_A's is currently on sale. I don't like WFSS' very much, but I got it because it was the only one in town at the time. Would you say A_A' ZBAA is so much better that it warrants its purchase despite having the one by WFSS already? Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
November 27, 20196 yr Glad you proposed this question as I noticed it was on sale as well. Interested to hear what people think.
November 27, 20196 yr 12 hours ago, Benjamin J said: Hey all, easy question: I currently have WFSS' ZBAA, but see that A_A's is currently on sale. I don't like WFSS' very much, but I got it because it was the only one in town at the time. Would you say A_A' ZBAA is so much better that it warrants its purchase despite having the one by WFSS already? I'm surprised to hear that. I was under the impression that the WFSS one was made using the v4 SDK and came with all the bells and whistles such as PBR and Dynamic Lights, whereas the A_A scenery was made as a common package for FSX & P3D. I was about to pick a couple of WFSS Scenery up, but I look forward to what people have to say about the A_A scenery.
November 27, 20196 yr The last time I was flying in and out of WSSS by WF Scenery, the night lighting was just plain terrible and I never got an useful reply on my support request and I am also not aware of any update since then. Not the scenery I recommend, for day-time operations however it is perfectly fine. Greetings, Chris AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D, 2x32GB DDR5 6000MT/s RAM, MSI RTX 4090 Ventus 3X, Windows 11 Home, MSFS2024
November 27, 20196 yr Author 3 hours ago, ninerwhiskey9W said: I'm surprised to hear that. I was under the impression that the WFSS one was made using the v4 SDK and came with all the bells and whistles such as PBR and Dynamic Lights, whereas the A_A scenery was made as a common package for FSX & P3D. I was about to pick a couple of WFSS Scenery up, but I look forward to what people have to say about the A_A scenery. It definitely does not have all the bells and whistles. As a matter of fact, it probably got released a little while before PBR became available. A-A's is actually newer than WFSS's ZBAA. I did buy several other WFSS sceneries, and in my mind they all feel a little sterile, lacking personality. This mostly comes down to the texturing, which is not bad or unrealistic - it's just a little 'samey'. I also own A_A's Kuala Lumpur and Bangkok and quite like those, hence I wonder whether I should pick up A_A's ZBAA despite having WFSS's. 3 hours ago, AnkH said: The last time I was flying in and out of WSSS by WF Scenery, the night lighting was just plain terrible and I never got an useful reply on my support request and I am also not aware of any update since then. Not the scenery I recommend, for day-time operations however it is perfectly fine. Thanks for the insight. I agree that WFSS is generally fine - hence I'd like to know if A_A's much improves over it. I do think that A_A is more up to par with current standard, with better lighting as well. But hence my question 😉 Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
November 27, 20196 yr Benjamin, I cannot speak about the "improvements" of A-A vs WF because I never bought a WF product, but only to give my opinion on A-A ZBAA I can recommend it. there are still couple of bugs related essentially to the car traffic under bridges used by the planes, but if you can temporarily forget about this until it gets fixed, then I found this scenery generally well done and refined in its details. Not FT or FB yet but honestly an excellent product with very good performance on my system. At this price anyway, you can hardly go wrong!
November 27, 20196 yr Author 1 hour ago, Jean-Claude said: Benjamin, I cannot speak about the "improvements" of A-A vs WF because I never bought a WF product, but only to give my opinion on A-A ZBAA I can recommend it. there are still couple of bugs related essentially to the car traffic under bridges used by the planes, but if you can temporarily forget about this until it gets fixed, then I found this scenery generally well done and refined in its details. Not FT or FB yet but honestly an excellent product with very good performance on my system. At this price anyway, you can hardly go wrong! Thanks Jean-Claude, that's a useful perspective. I had heard that its performance is very good, and I think its in part due to lower res tenures. What is your impression of the texture quality? Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
November 27, 20196 yr I like the textures personally, they look a lot better than the WF judging from the screenshots available on Simmarket, they are spot-on to me, note that I have been a frequent flyer to and from ZBAA, hence my judgement is based from the real world impressions!... Edited November 27, 20196 yr by Jean-Claude
November 27, 20196 yr I own WFSS version and a buddy of mine owns AA one. This could be a matter of taste, but we both prefer WFSS. Texturing seems to look nicer and more crisp.
November 27, 20196 yr https://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/threads/zbaa-beijing-international-airport-for-fsx.430996/ is worth the read on A_A's development of ZBAA. & the low vis daytime lighting is one of best (yet not often mentioned in a features list) for now, cheers john martin
November 28, 20196 yr I own A_A's ZBAA and quite like it (as I do like his other sceneries like VTBS and WMKK). I cannot speak for the WFSS one. Erhard I9 11900k RTX 3080 TI 3 x 55" LED TV 4K, 2 more PCs for displays and hardware connection Prosim A320
November 28, 20196 yr Author Thanks for the insights! Decided to get it and I’ll see for myself. Benjamin van Soldt Windows 10 64bit - i5-8600k @ 4.7GHz - ASRock Fatality K6 Z370 - EVGA GTX1070 SC 8GB VRAM - 16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX @ 3200MHz - Samsung 960 Evo SSD M.2 NVMe 500GB - 2x Samsung 860 Evo SSD 1TB (P3Dv4/5 drive) - Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM - Seasonic FocusPlus Gold 750W - Noctua DH-15S - Fractal Design Focus G (White) Case
November 29, 20196 yr Missed this forum discussion - but my 2 cents.. I have WF ZBAA - if you have Orbx landclass there is a file you need to delete for taxiways and runways to appear correctly.. Also the AFCAD is generic. apart from that - it is OKAY. However I would seriously consider Daxian Beijing new airport by Bridge.. i have their Chengdu airport and it is fabulous!! Edited November 29, 20196 yr by ray hughes
November 29, 20196 yr 7 hours ago, ninerwhiskey9W said: @ray hughes What files are you supposed to delete for WFSS ZBAA ? Why would one need to delete anything? I installed it via add-on.xml and everything works as it should.
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