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December 12th, 2019 - Development/Insider Update

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Oops, my bad concerning the SDK update date.  If Sethos is correct, devs should receive a working MSFS version plus SDKs latest by the end of the year. 

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They forgot about the bridges in Porto 🙂

I've heard there are no bridges either in Lisbon...

Under development - I know!

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9 hours ago, FDEdev said:

That was a rather disappointing update. I didn't see anything about the mentioned SDK update and I know at least three big add-on companies where nobody in their team made it into TA1.

Since only the info about the TA2 participation will be sent in January it looks like this will happen earliest in February. That's a rather long time with constantly further decreasing FSX/P3D sales and still zero information about how to develop anything for the new sim.  

Crumbs I would have hoped partners using the SDK wouldn't have to use the public TA programme, that doesn't sound right. Are you sure that nobody else has the SDK other than Microsoft and Asobo?

5 hours ago, alphawill said:
... top picture ... who is the pilot ...?
best regards
Sir Wilfrid
 
 

Hi @alphawill, welcome to these forums!!! You are in for a treat for MSFS. Get signed up to the insider programme (https://www.flightsimulator.com/) and in the meantime you can catch up on Microsoft Flight Simulator videos on there youtube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqONzeACDBaF6FfKjh7ndAQ

Cheers,
Dave.

11 minutes ago, dtrjones said:

Are you sure that nobody else has the SDK other than Microsoft and Asobo?

I have no idea, except for three add-on companies which definitely haven't got anything.

Next week update on SDK and also at the end of January and last week in Feb according to the road map. 

If some think that MSFS will be dumb down for Project Scarlett XBOX SERIES X think again, on the game awards the specs and pics have been shown and it  will put some PC`S in the shade. 

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Spot the difference

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Interesting to see the same scenery in two different versions. They seem to have worked on the coastlines. In the old shot the waves were baked in the imagery, now we have water texture all the way to the beach.

Also the buildings are different. I wonder if the new screenshot shows the sim in low detail mode. The buildings in the older image seem to be more accurate.

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4 hours ago, Shack95 said:

Spot the difference

 

 

Interesting to see the same scenery in two different versions. They seem to have worked on the coastlines. In the old shot the waves were baked in the imagery, now we have water texture all the way to the beach.

Also the buildings are different. I wonder if the new screenshot shows the sim in low detail mode. The buildings in the older image seem to be more accurate.

Interesting so it appears they have a photogrammetry version and aerial imagery version. Maybe this is one of those few cities where you have some aerial imagery available in the offline version?

Can anybody shed any light on this? I would have thought you would stream the aerial imagery+ai-autogen city or photogrammetry city but not both...

Therefore I can only conclude we are looking at the offline version which is quite incredible.

UPDATE: actually forget it, I've come to the conclusion this is a different part and may not even be the same city.

 

14 minutes ago, dtrjones said:

actually forget it, I've come to the conclusion this is a different part and may not even be the same city.

It‘s definitely the same city (Porto) and same spot. 

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Same city and same spot indeed but from a different distance and angle. It also seems to me the old one looks better, seems to use photogrammetry (a lot more detail), while the new one seems to use autogen (far less detail). Check the large building near the peer. Online versus offline? The lighting also makes a big difference here but on the old screenshot the buildings seem to fit into the textures better, more realistic: on the new screenshot everything seems to be placed on there textures like boxes, as in P3D/FSX/AFS2.

It's indeed the same place and in the latest screenshot seems worst when compared to the earlier shot. I hope the mixed the screenshots and this last one is actually an earlier version of the scenery. 

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old is more accurate. in the old, we can see near the coastline a tennis area (perhaps...), in google maps (sure). and in the new, the tennis aera become a building

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37 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

It's indeed the same place and in the latest screenshot seems worst when compared to the earlier shot. I hope the mixed the screenshots and this last one is actually an earlier version of the scenery. 

But the first image is quite obviously photogrammetry, my question is why do the two versions exist unless the second image was for offline and given that it includes aerial imagery thats quite interesting.

40 minutes ago, Flamingpie said:

It also seems to me the old one looks better, seems to use photogrammetry (a lot more detail), while the new one seems to use autogen (far less detail).

I agree that the old one looks better. But I doubt it‘s photogrammetry.

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23 minutes ago, dtrjones said:

 

the old one is better because of lighting

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