9 minutes ago, Noodle said:

That's NOT photogrammetry. You're talking about first vs second vs last-return LiDAR.

No.

What I am talking about is photgrammetry trees vs static 3d models that bear no relation to reality.

the rest is just you and your msfs2020 activist friends going off topic and trying to distract from the fact that one of (the one and only?) the biggest attractions of msfs2020 seems to be dead on arrival.

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by mSparks

To think what will finally terminate this circus of a thread will be a digression about American politics.

Good show!

11 minutes ago, mSparks said:

No.

What I am talking about is photgrammetry trees vs static 3d models that bear no relation to reality.

the rest is just you and your crew going off topic and trying to distract from the fact that one of the biggest attractions of msfs2020 seems to be dead on arrival.

Ah, so we've come full circle? You've realized your absurd attempts to dazzle us with bull excrement has failed, and you're back to simply whining about a teaser video with WIP assets. Cool! Nice doing business with you.

I'll be sure to rub your nose in it when the sim actually "arrives" and looks great, appropriately scaled trees and all.

EDIT: Also, nice move editing your earlier post to make it appear like you actually provided a link to your nonexistent research paper. But you forgot to address the fact than none of the papers included in that volume agree with your claims.

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by Noodle

Just now, Noodle said:

Ah, so we've come full circle? You've realized your absurd attempts to dazzle us with bull excrement has failed, and you're back to simply whining about a teaser video with WIP assets. Cool! Nice doing business with you.

I'll be sure to rub your nose in it when the sim actually "arrives" and looks great, appropriately scaled trees and all.

will the good scenery be "the whole world"

or 1% of the world and cities only.

will the world have photogrammetry trees/forests?

if "photogrammetry" is to contentious for you. How about just rephrasing that to:

will trees require human intervention to match reality or will they be based on real world types and heights from real world measurements (of any source).

"human intervention and thats ok"

is not ok.

 

The atmosphere in the forum and people's behavior, all this has been strongly degraded for some time.

Strangely this coincides with the arrival of a guest with obscure motivations but who takes pleasure in criticizing this simulator, denying the obvious and treating with contempt the poor minds that can find interest here on this simulator.

The moderation team has its work cut out for it

8 minutes ago, mSparks said:

will the good scenery be "the whole world"

or 1% of the world and cities only.

will the world have photogrammetry trees/forests?

if "photogrammetry" is to contentious for you. How about just rephrasing that to:

will trees require human intervention to match reality or will they be based on real world types and heights from real world measurements (of any source).

"human intervention and thats ok"

is not ok.

 

English: do you speak it?

You're a very proficient troll, I'll give you that. I've taken your bait too many times, but this is where I draw the line.

This post is nonsense, and appears to be yet another shift of the goalposts. You're asking me/us to answer on behalf of the devs regarding the methodology they will ultimately use to implement a WIP feature?

That's an obvious dead-end. Just like this thread.

Good day, sir.

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by Noodle

Come now. we had this conversation already.

I told you this was coming (here or when the org was getting spammed) and you said it would never happen and i was trolling.

now it has happened, its not final and im trolling.

Just maybe im not the troll here. And the laws of physics do apply to Asobo just the same as every other software company.

i da, pričam engliz, i многие другие

but if you dont have anything to say.

Perhaps dont say anything.

 

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by mSparks

23 minutes ago, mSparks said:

will trees require human intervention to match reality or will they be based on real world types and heights from real world measurements (of any source).

Do they have height data for the trees that are not covered by photogrammetry? I don't think they do.

I imagine they have to somehow identify trees species from satellite photos (analyse canopy shape and other data) and then scale tree heights appropriately, based on tree species data, with some random variation to make it look naturalistic.

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by MatthewS

Shrinking the trees will create gaps and more trees objects will be needed to create a wooded feel hence potentially affecting performance. It might be a design decision to make them bigger then real life.

P.s. I hope the moderators lock this thread soon. It's gone wildly off topic and for people interested in fs2020 talk only its frankly boring. I feel like I am sifting through ads trying to find the good stuff.

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by sanh

Outside photogrammetic area They use azure and feed it with some rules but here many seems to forgot that.

1 minute ago, azulkb said:

Outside photogrammetic area They use azure and feed it with some rules but here many seems to forgot that.

perhaps because

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-flight-simulator-2020-next-generation?amp

The long-overdue revival of Microsoft's longest-running franchise emerges as a rich culmination of geographical data, with over two petabytes flowing through its systems. It's a vast experience far exceeding storage of the average PC, enlisting help from the cloud infrastructure to serve up the globe.

Microsoft's mind-blowing take on modern Flight Simulator.

Cloning the real world with demanded accuracy and fidelity is no easy feat, placing satellite data and artificial intelligence (AI) fundamental to this premise. 

....equals

Autogen trees look terrible indeed. Just look at this outrageously hideous piece of scenery:

All will be fine

9 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

Autogen trees look terrible indeed. Just look at this outrageously hideous piece of scenery:

 

 

 

yes, from a distance autogen trees do look almost as good as free orthophoto.

 

I would very much appreciate this forum even though I have only been here recently. 

I know that you can't say someone is a liar or a troll without breaking the rules. 

But people who were reasonable and courteous did not become aggressive without reason. Who is always provoking? Who insults the intelligence of others? Who denigrates moments of shared passion?

I hope the question will be asked for the good health of this forum

53 minutes ago, sanh said:

Shrinking the trees will create gaps and more trees objects will be needed to create a wooded feel hence potentially affecting performance. It might be a design decision to make them bigger then real life.

P.s. I hope the moderators lock this thread soon. It's gone wildly off topic and for people interested in fs2020 talk only its frankly boring. I feel like I am sifting through ads trying to find the good stuff.

OMG noooooooooooo!!!

This is what they did in FSX for the sake of performance.  

This thinking is exactly the reason we should be concerned about what we see in the preview video.

This is what "bean counters" will think when forced to choose between getting good performance (by investing more $$$) or saving $$$ (by putting up with oversized trees).

Edited January 5, 20206 yr by MatthewS