February 8, 20206 yr The new Orbx True Earth Scenery of the Netherlands looks gorgeous. I learnt to fly in the Netherlands so would really love to have this scenery to "fly over" that beautiful country again. The problem is that it is only out on Prepar3D, not FSX (and its not clear if it will ever come out for FSX?). So my question is it worth getting Prepar3D just so I can use this? Or is the freeware NL2000 (which does work on FSX) just as good, or good enough on the detail? What are the advantages of Prepar3D over FSX please? And if scenery is compatible between Prepar3D and FSX why won't this particular scenery work on the latter? That puzzles me.
February 8, 20206 yr 20 minutes ago, gringo97 said: The new Orbx True Earth Scenery of the Netherlands looks gorgeous. I learnt to fly in the Netherlands so would really love to have this scenery to "fly over" that beautiful country again. The problem is that it is only out on Prepar3D, not FSX (and its not clear if it will ever come out for FSX?). So my question is it worth getting Prepar3D just so I can use this? Or is the freeware NL2000 (which does work on FSX) just as good, or good enough on the detail? What are the advantages of Prepar3D over FSX please? And if scenery is compatible between Prepar3D and FSX why won't this particular scenery work on the latter? That puzzles me. It depends how for instance your pc configuration can handle it. P3Dv4.5 is a a whole new ballgame but with alot of new feautures which looks so good. The price is faster PC and more RAM,VRAM,. Also its 64 bit so it can handle all the detail in ORBX Nederlands which seems impossible with 32bit FSX (OOM 4GB FSX) Michael Moe Michael Moe
February 9, 20206 yr Author Thank you for the reply. My equipment is as follows, in case you are able to comment on whether it will be good enough to run P3Dv4.5; CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K @3.5Ghz Motherboard: ASUSTEK P8Z77-VLX Ram: 16GB SSD/HDD: Western Digital 1TB SSD, (Toshiba 2TB HDD) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 PSU: XFX PRO850W
February 9, 20206 yr I would suggest staying with NL2000,,, your system would not be happy with Orbx TE. CPU needs to be 4 GHz+ and VRAM 8 GB+.. Edited February 9, 20206 yr by Bert Pieke Bert
February 9, 20206 yr I used TrueEarth Netherlands with a 2GB GTX 770 on my old PC, although that was with calm weather and clear skies, and @ 1920x1080 resolution. My i5 4690k CPU was overclocked to 4.3Ghz. The framerate when airborne was better than I thought it would be, and that was with Scenery Density and Autogen Complexity (Buildings and Trees; MEDIUM draw distance) @ Extremely Dense. Edited February 9, 20206 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
February 9, 20206 yr 9 hours ago, gringo97 said: Thank you for the reply. My equipment is as follows, in case you are able to comment on whether it will be good enough to run P3Dv4.5; CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K @3.5Ghz Motherboard: ASUSTEK P8Z77-VLX Ram: 16GB SSD/HDD: Western Digital 1TB SSD, (Toshiba 2TB HDD) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX670 PSU: XFX PRO850W I'd give it a miss with those specs. AMD 9800X3D, NZXT X73 RGB AIO COOLER, Gigabyte X870 Aorus Elite WIFI7, 64GB 6000MHZ RAM, 4TB Samsung Pro NVME, 4 TB Crucial P3+ NVME, 4TB Crucial SSD, Gigabyte Gaming OC Geforce RTX5090, Antec C8 ARGB Case, X55 JOYSTICK/THROTTLES, LG 4K C4 42" TV/Monitor 120 Hz, 2 Dell 1080 monitors. Honeycomb Alpha Yoke, Bravo Throttle. Thrustmaster TPR Pedals. Moza AB6 FFB Joystick, Pimax Crystal Light VR, Tobii Eye tracker, Steelseries Arctis 7+ Wireless Headphones.
February 9, 20206 yr Buying a new GTX 1080 ti 11gb would help a lot and the price of these (old) video cards is getting lower and lower, currently approx 400€. I'm quite happy with my 4gb GTX 970, but i'm only flying vfr (which i presume you'll do the same, since buying a TE scenery for big-jets flying doesn't really make sense. Edited February 9, 20206 yr by AndrejS Win 7 Home (SP1), i7 [email protected], RAM 16gb, gtx 1080 Ti, ssd disks, DELL U2715H P3d ver 4.5.12.30293, TrackIr v5, T16000M + TWCS
February 9, 20206 yr 13 hours ago, gringo97 said: The new Orbx True Earth Scenery of the Netherlands looks gorgeous. I learnt to fly in the Netherlands so would really love to have this scenery to "fly over" that beautiful country again. The problem is that it is only out on Prepar3D, not FSX (and its not clear if it will ever come out for FSX?). So my question is it worth getting Prepar3D just so I can use this? Or is the freeware NL2000 (which does work on FSX) just as good, or good enough on the detail? What are the advantages of Prepar3D over FSX please? And if scenery is compatible between Prepar3D and FSX why won't this particular scenery work on the latter? That puzzles me. You have a better chance to hit the lottery than to ever see TE Netherlands in FSX. 😁 But, there's still hope if you are willing to take a chance. ORBX has a sale every few months, when this happens, buy the trial of P3D v4 or the $10 a month dev license and try it out. The one thing I'd like to say about ORBX TE Netherlands is that it's the best scenery package I've ever purchased for any sim. You don't have to take my word for it, just keep doing research and in time you will have your decision. My advice with regards to hardware for P3D v4 & ORBX TE add-ons is that you need at least a GTX 1070 and a large SSD. Both are very affordable, but for a small investment you can try the scenery with your current hardware ASAP. Edited February 9, 20206 yr by DJJose MSFS
February 9, 20206 yr I have had a good time with my old 2011 i7 Sandy Bridge 2600K and 16Gb Vram flying TE Netherlands so PC wise it's surely possible with your config. Find your self a second hand 1060 GTX with 6Gb Vram (not the 3Gb) as a minimum GPU and you are ready to go. In that config with high settings I was doing 30fps in 1920x1080. The alternative is also the Dutch Freeware NL2000 version also for P3Dv4.x Happy landings...
February 9, 20206 yr Author 8 hours ago, AndrejS said: Buying a new GTX 1080 ti 11gb would help a lot and the price of these (old) video cards is getting lower and lower, currently approx 400€. I'm quite happy with my 4gb GTX 970, but i'm only flying vfr (which i presume you'll do the same, since buying a TE scenery for big-jets flying doesn't really make sense. Thanks. That's a bit outside my budget for now. And yes I would only be flying vfr, and "low and slow" to enjoy the views 🙂 Is there a graphics card for 200 euro or under that would give me an improved experience over my current set up with a GTX670 or would it not be worth it? Alternatively are there safe sites for purchasing second hand cards? I'm probably a year or two away from buying a new PC at which point I expect it will need to be a powerful one with scenery like TE entering the market, and some time this year FS2020?
February 9, 20206 yr Well, you could try other countries in photoreal which should not be such CPU & GPU consumer, haven't tried it yet, but i guess since there's no calculations to be made regarding positioning of the LC, only AG would be the thirsty one. I'm sure you can get a second hand 970 4gb on ebay for less than 100€. Then your system would be more powerful than mine (ok, i have 4,5tb of ssd disks) and i'm quite happy with it. I fly "low & slow" have nearly all Orbx sceneries and airports, almost all of the Europe covered with both photoreal and LC sceneries and i'm getting approx 25-30 fps (some say it's way to low, but with limited resources, i'm quite happy with what i've got) when not flying around major cities or airports. Spain, Germany, Italy, Belgium, ..... everything exists for free, you could add your AG, made with ScenProc, and you're in for a good flying experience. Regarding the FS202X, just skip it, it'll need both fast internet and state of art hardware. Win 7 Home (SP1), i7 [email protected], RAM 16gb, gtx 1080 Ti, ssd disks, DELL U2715H P3d ver 4.5.12.30293, TrackIr v5, T16000M + TWCS
February 10, 20206 yr On 2/9/2020 at 10:50 AM, AndrejS said: Buying a new GTX 1080 ti 11gb would help a lot and the price of these (old) video cards is getting lower and lower, currently approx 400€. I'm quite happy with my 4gb GTX 970, but i'm only flying vfr (which i presume you'll do the same, since buying a TE scenery for big-jets flying doesn't really make sense. ......unless you fly those big jets "low and slow", like I do Edited February 10, 20206 yr by Christopher Low Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
February 10, 20206 yr 8 hours ago, Christopher Low said: ......unless you fly those big jets "low and slow", like I do Ok, now i get it. I thought it was the new RealTurb update, that brought these extreme turbulence enhancements but it seems that it was you, who caused all the commotion in the air. Win 7 Home (SP1), i7 [email protected], RAM 16gb, gtx 1080 Ti, ssd disks, DELL U2715H P3d ver 4.5.12.30293, TrackIr v5, T16000M + TWCS
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