I have posted this on the Orbx Central support forum, but I'm not really sure how long it'll take till I get a reply. Meanwhile i'm really grounded, as so much of my world is provided by Orbx scenery.

The drive on which I have my P3Dv4 and P3Dv5 installations, including Orbx library, is getting a bit full, so I wanted to move the Library to a separate drive which has plenty of space.

I followed the instructions in the Orbx Central user guide, but I have encountered a serious problem which now leaves me with none of my Orbx sceneries working.

1 The instructions said to Remove the Library -- done (this actually is the "Delete" as clarified on the Support forum. It doesn't actually delete the files.
2 Then close central - done. (my X button is set to close it -- it doesn't go to the tray, so that was easy).
3 Move the folder to the other drive: I actually copied it instead, in case of any corruption whilst moving. I'd prefer to test it then delete the original.
4 In Central again, "Create new library"., give it a name, enter the new location, click "Save":  Done.

But then a RED message appears "The library location isn't empty". I cannot "Save" only close. This leaves me with no Orbx products installed at all!

I assume I've done something wrong, but I followed the instructions step by step.

BTW using the "Scan for Libraries" option instead of "Create a New Library", which seems a more logical choice, lists both my original and the new copy,  It allows me to select either, but on pressing "Save" it also comes up with the same red message.

It seems this facility is only designed for making a new empty library.

If anyone here has succeeded in moving the library, please tell me how. At present it looks like I have re-install everything. That's many Gb of data -- all the Europe stuff including the Regions and True Earth packages where available, and many European airports. Plus the recent Vector for P3Dv5 which pleasantly surprised me by not affecting frame rates (after disabling my UTX vectors).

Pete

 

Try creating the new library in Orbx Central then close Central completely, drop the old library contents into it, then reload Orbx central and re-sync 

So make yet another copy?

Well much better than downloading certainly. What if I do the first part then, with Central not running, delete the new empty folder and rename the one with the sceneries in? Wouldn't that be the same?

Either way, thanks .. You've given me some ideas.

Of course it still needs fixing in Central.

Pete

 

 

 

 

In 4.5 I had some in the sim and later in the ORBX Library, when I installed V5 on another SSD I created a folder ORBX V5 then I pointed my ORBX Central to that folder for my V5 scenery now all my V5 is installed in the Library.

Try creating a folder on some other drive and see if you can change the setting and migrate to that folder.

I did same and had lot's of issues and asked for help week ago or so....but at the end in order to get it work I uninstalled and installed in my SIM...however, I still have Library and all files there(?!) but only airports and Object flow.  I think once you chose to install in SIM it will install in Library as well judging by size of the Library file. Airports and Flow is 11.8 GB and Central reports 35.8Gb in it (?!). In my case definitely didn't work when I chose to install in Library, so I didn't had a choice.

Not sure if this info helps you.

2 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

I have posted this on the Orbx Central support forum, but I'm not really sure how long it'll take till I get a reply. Meanwhile i'm really grounded, as so much of my world is provided by Orbx scenery.

The drive on which I have my P3Dv4 and P3Dv5 installations, including Orbx library, is getting a bit full, so I wanted to move the Library to a separate drive which has plenty of space.

I followed the instructions in the Orbx Central user guide, but I have encountered a serious problem which now leaves me with none of my Orbx sceneries working.

1 The instructions said to Remove the Library -- done (this actually is the "Delete" as clarified on the Support forum. It doesn't actually delete the files.
2 Then close central - done. (my X button is set to close it -- it doesn't go to the tray, so that was easy).
3 Move the folder to the other drive: I actually copied it instead, in case of any corruption whilst moving. I'd prefer to test it then delete the original.
4 In Central again, "Create new library"., give it a name, enter the new location, click "Save":  Done.

But then a RED message appears "The library location isn't empty". I cannot "Save" only close. This leaves me with no Orbx products installed at all!

I assume I've done something wrong, but I followed the instructions step by step.

BTW using the "Scan for Libraries" option instead of "Create a New Library", which seems a more logical choice, lists both my original and the new copy,  It allows me to select either, but on pressing "Save" it also comes up with the same red message.

It seems this facility is only designed for making a new empty library.

If anyone here has succeeded in moving the library, please tell me how. At present it looks like I have re-install everything. That's many Gb of data -- all the Europe stuff including the Regions and True Earth packages where available, and many European airports. Plus the recent Vector for P3Dv5 which pleasantly surprised me by not affecting frame rates (after disabling my UTX vectors).

Pete

 

I even posted on the ORBX forum to do the same thing.  I believe the instructions are, like so many other things, very, very confusing.  For example, when it says "Remove", it actually does mean "Delete"...like you found out.  I would like a real step-by-step instruction for moving my libraries too. I want to move the V4 and the V5 libraries from my SSD C drive to a huge X drive.  A plain English tutorial would be nice.

Stan

 

2 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

If anyone here has succeeded in moving the library, please tell me how

 

I have had luck making the change manually in the past. If I remember correctly, you need to do two things after making sure Central is completely closed:

1) In C:\ProgramData\Lockheed Martin\Prepar3D v5 there is an add-ons.cfg. Open it in a text editor and usually at the very top of that file is a DiscoveryPath.0 entry that points to your C:\ORBX directory. Change that to your new library location, such as D:\ORBX.

2) In c:\users\yourusername\roaming\orbx\central there is a central.json file. Open the file in notepad++ or your favorite text editor and go to the section "libraries" and find the name of your library (mine is Main Library) and change the location. You have to use the double slashes in json. So if it says C:\\ORBX and you moved to D just change the C to a D and save the file. I'd recommend making a backup just in case you need to revert.

It would be nice if they'd build a 'move library' function, but this worked for me in the past when I needed to move it around. As usual, YMMV and make a backup in case it no longer works or I'm mis-remembering what I did.

Edit: this assumes you've already copied the full library to the new drive.

Edited June 7, 20205 yr by cwburnett

Please do this:

1. Go to Settings > Libraries.
2. Note the directory of the library you’d like to move.
3. Remove the Orbx Central library that you would like to move (remember: this doesn’t delete the actual files).
4. Close Central by right-clicking on the tray and selecting “quit”.
5. Create a new and empty directory in the new location.
6. Start Central again
7. Open Settings, and then the Libraries page
8. Press ‘Create New Library’
9. Select the new library location, give it a name and then press ‘Save’.
10. Move the files from your original library into the new location. DO NOT amend the file structure. This step may take a while depending on your disk speed.
11. Delete the original library and all of its files from your disk drive. 

 

 

1.  Create new library in orbx central on your new drive.

2. Cut and paste all orbx folders that you want to move from the old library folder to this new library folder.

3. Run “verify files” in orbx central on each product.

Should now be all correct and active, and doesn’t take too long.

There are a couple of good suggestions but I didn't see anyone mention a symbolic link.  I'm still using a symbolic link in P3Dv4 to physically move the Orbx files to a data drive while keeping the logical appearance of it still being in the P3D root folder.  I did this before libraries came into use and it still works with Orbx Central and installers.  I am now using a library with P3Dv5 and will eventually remove v4 (after the DC-6 is done).

1 hour ago, cwburnett said:

If I remember correctly, you need to do two things after making sure Central is completely closed:

Thank you! Good suggestions -- I'll try those first!

1 hour ago, Reader said:

Please do this:

Those are the exact copy of the instructions in the user guide which I followed. i even printed them out first so I wouldn't make a mistake. Please refer to my original post.

Basically, their instructions DO NOT WORK!

12 minutes ago, downscc said:

There are a couple of good suggestions but I didn't see anyone mention a symbolic link. 

Yes, I know about those, but i end up getting confised about where things are at later dates. I'm having to use them at present for Visual Studio GIT locations, so I can share projects with my son, John, but that should be relatively short-lived compared to my hopefully long-life cockpit installation.

 

Anyway, thanks every one!  I have some things to try.

Pete

 

3 hours ago, Pete Dowson said:

Those are the exact copy of the instructions in the user guide which I followed. i even printed them out first so I wouldn't make a mistake. Please refer to my original post.Basically, their instructions DO NOT WORK!

 

I hate to disagree but I feel that I must.

Here is what I posted, copied and pasted from the Orbx forums.

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1. Go to Settings > Libraries.
2. Note the directory of the library you’d like to move.
3. Remove the Orbx Central library that you would like to move (remember: this doesn’t delete the actual files).
4. Close Central by right-clicking on the tray and selecting “quit”.
5. Create a new and empty directory in the new location.
6. Start Central again
7. Open Settings, and then the Libraries page
8. Press ‘Create New Library’
9. Select the new library location, give it a name and then press ‘Save’.
10. Move the files from your original library into the new location. DO NOT amend the file structure. This step may take a while depending on your disk speed.
11. Delete the original library and all of its files from your disk drive. 

and here are the instructions copied and pasted from the Orbx Central user guide.

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Moving a library is painless with Central and can be achieved in a few steps only:

1. Go to Settings > Libraries.

2. Note the directory of the library you’d like to move.

3. Remove the library that you would like to move (remember: this doesn’t delete the actual files).

4. Close Central by right-clicking on the tray and selecting “quit”.

5. Move the directory to the new location in your operating system. This step may take a while depending on your disk speed.

6. Start Central again

7. Open Settings, and then the Libraries page

8. Press ‘Create New Library’

9. Select the new library location, give it a name and then press ‘Save’.

 

 

 

I hope that if you read them again, you will see that in fact the text is not the same and also that if you take the trouble to follow the 1 to 11 guide, it does in fact work. As you point out, the 1 to 9 guide does not. Mr Ainscough's posted "solution" is to a different and unrelated  problem, unique to him.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 7, 20205 yr by Reader

4 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

Hi Pete, I ran into the same issue and posted my solution in Orbx forum ... searching ... https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/191549-impossible-to-maintain-two-separate-libraries-v4-and-v5/

Hope that helps!

I think that was a different problem and the solution doesn't seem to apply to my problem. the red error I get is that I can't select my old or new library position without it rejected the choice because the library isn't empty. It doesn't allow me to select a library with anything in it!!!

That must surely be a Central bug, as it makes no sense. And I was following the steps in their documentation exactly after all.

1 hour ago, Reader said:

I hope that if you read them again, you will see that in fact the text is not the same and also that if you take the trouble to follow the 1 to 11 guide, it does in fact work.

Ah, yes, sorry! You post did look like a direct copy of the documentation, but I see now that it isn't. The crucial difference is this

5. Create a new and empty directory in the new location.

However, it took a more than two hours to copy my library already (and that is M.2 SSD to M.2 SSD in the same PC!),  and whilst I can delete that and copy the original again, couldn't I just add more steps to your 11:

12. Close / quit Central again.

13. Delete the newly created folder (which was empty)

14. Rename the copied library folder to the name now registered in Central.

15. Reload Central and check that all your sceneries are back, verifying if in doubt.

Wouldn't that achieve the same results, or make a worse mess?

Pete

 

Yes.

If you have already copied the files, simply rename the folder by adding z to its name. Then create a new and empty folder with the same name.

Once you have this empty folder, create your new Orbx Library, pointing at that folder and close Orbx Central.

Delete your new and empty folder and rename your full folder back to its original name by removing the z.

Start Orbx Central and it will then recognise your new Library.

Just what you suggest of course.

Nothing to add to the revised guide, as the original mistake (introduced by the original guide) will not have been made if it was followed.

Edited June 7, 20205 yr by Reader

9 minutes ago, Reader said:

If you have already copied the files, simply rename the folder by adding z to its name. Then create a new and empty folder with the same name.

Once you have this empty folder, create your new Orbx Library, pointing at that folder and close Orbx Central.

Delete your new and empty folder and rename your full folder back to its original name by removing the z.

Start Orbx Central and it will then recognise your new Library.

Just what you suggest of course.

Thanks for confirming.

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Nothing to add to the revised guide, as the original mistake (introduced by the original guide) will not have been made if it was followed.

There's a "revised guide" with it corrected? But I just followed the link ob Orbx to the guide only yesterday. Has it been corrected since then? (Or am I misunderstanding you?)

Thanks,
Pete