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Will there be subscription Fees?

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In addition to the initial cost of the Simulator, will there be additional costs by way of subscription in order to get the full streamed world? Feedback appreciated.

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13 minutes ago, ideoplastic said:

In addition to the initial cost of the Simulator, will there be additional costs by way of subscription in order to get the full streamed world? Feedback appreciated.

No, why should be? Someone tells it? Streamed world, on-line weather and live traffic were presented as an integral part of MSFS from beginning.

 

Yes. I control the scenery streaming process from Microsoft and whether you receive standard definition 256kb landclass tiles or UHD4096 photoreal photogrammetry scenery. PM me your bank details so I can assess your subscription fee.

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1 hour ago, ludekbrno said:

No, why should be? Someone tells it? Streamed world, on-line weather and live traffic were presented as an integral part of MSFS from beginning.

 

Because it was mentioned in the early days and the team addressed it by saying that it hadn't been decided yet. I had the same question up until a while ago.

Good to see it's free, sad to see it's still attached to some silly MS XBOX service.

Edited by Nuno Pinto

CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11

9 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

, sad to see it's still attached to some silly MS XBOX service.

« Attached » ? It is not, it can be purchased as a standalone. And the  XBox service will allow folks to try the sim for one month for a buck. How silly is it ?

Dominique

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46 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Because it was mentioned in the early days and the team addressed it by saying that it hadn't been decided yet. I had the same question up until a while ago.

Good to see it's free, sad to see it's still attached to some silly MS XBOX service.

No. Only said, that they doesn't know pricing model yet. But they clearly did declare from the begining, that we may chose to buy MSFS standalone as one-time payment or as part of a big collection different games with monthly subscription (Xbox game pass). They never said, that we have to pay repeatelly to get some of basic part of MSFS, like streamed scenery, live weather, live traffic or multiplayer. But I know, that a small group of still the same people constantly and tirelessly repeated those fake new about the necssary subscription for the complete MSFS here on AVSIM 🙂. Where those people are now, I don't know 🙂.

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8 minutes ago, ludekbrno said:

 They never said, that we have to pay repeatelly to get some of basic part of MSFS, like streamed scenery, (...)

They never said we didn't either, and that was the point up until the preorder was announced.

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43 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

« Attached » ? It is not, it can be purchased as a standalone. And the  XBox service will allow folks to try the sim for one month for a buck. How silly is it ?

How can you purchase it as "standalone"? Hopefully you don't mean the DVD set.

AFAIK the only way to purchase, it aside from the DVD set, is from within the MS webstore and you need an XBOXLive account to make it work, unlike P3D and FSX which are true standalone products. This is not a big deal, just annoying (like steam).

Edited by Nuno Pinto

CASE: Fractal Terra Silver CPU: AMD R5 7800X3D 5.0Ghz RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000 GPU: nVidia RTX 4070 Ti SUPER · SSDs: Samsung 990 PRO 2TB M.2 PCIe · PNY XLR8 CS3040 2TB M.2 PCIe · VIDEO: LG-32GK650F QHD 32" 144Hz FREE/G-SYNC · MISC: Thrustmaster TCA Airbus Joystick + Throttle Quadrant · MSFS2024 · Windows 11

You have to pay your electricity bills in order to play it. So technically it requires a subscription.

10 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

How can you purchase it as "standalone"? Hopefully you don't mean the DVD set.

AFAIK the only way to purchase, it aside from the DVD set, is from within the MS webstore and you need an XBOXLive account to make it work, unlike P3D and FSX which are true standalone products. This is not a big deal, just annoying (like steam).

I meant that you do not have to get an Xbox Gamepass subscription (the OP question as I understand it), you can buy it as a standalone. You do have to buy it at  Microsoft store though. And if you want to stream the scenery, you mechanically need to keep the channel open to whatever service they have. But not if you fly it offline.

Dominique

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2 hours ago, lambourne said:

Yes. I control the scenery streaming process from Microsoft and whether you receive standard definition 256kb landclass tiles or UHD4096 photoreal photogrammetry scenery. PM me your bank details so I can assess your subscription fee.

And, if you live in the USA, also please include your Social Security number and appropriate credit card information.

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52 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

How can you purchase it as "standalone"? Hopefully you don't mean the DVD set.

AFAIK the only way to purchase, it aside from the DVD set, is from within the MS webstore and you need an XBOXLive account to make it work, unlike P3D and FSX which are true standalone products. This is not a big deal, just annoying (like steam).

You can buy it from the Game website and CDkeys website. 

36 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I meant that you do not have to get an Xbox Gamepass subscription (the OP question as I understand it), you can buy it as a standalone. You do have to buy it at  Microsoft store though. And if you want to stream the scenery, you mechanically need to keep the channel open to whatever service they have. But not if you fly it offline.

You can buy it from other online retailers. 

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