Still worried about the flight model ... how planes move

[BigDee 119]

New entertaining video for those who love GTA V

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Edit: Link No 2

Edit: COL Crying out loud :D

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 11, 2020 by BigDee

[tweekz 2,165]

Ladies and gentlement. Joined June 24th, constantly complaining about how bad MSFS is - we have a new mSparks! 😄

@BigDee, no one will take you serious if you keep on like that.

[BigDee 119]

The post was intended for this thread, as I am luckelywise not the only one who thinks the physics are not good. 

I  don`t want to be a complainer, I do not complain about the flying cars, popping objects and textures, homes that don`t fit with satellite image. It`s ok, comparing to its complexity everything can`t be made right.

But the physics are the most important things, they have missed it.

But you are right.  It`s a bad idea to complain all the time. That is also not my intention.

Edited August 11, 2020 by BigDee

[Christopher Low 5,433]

NASA would be proud of those wide S turns to slow the planes down after landing.

[RudyB24 296]

Matthijs Kok, Aerosoft, about the flight model:

https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/155247-thoughts-on-a-new-simulator-flight-models/&tab=comments#comment-992579

 

[LHookins 3,118]

Rudy, that is GREAT!  Thanks for posting.

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What matters most is not how realistic things actually are, but how believable they are.

Some excellent stuff there.

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[RudyB24 296]

He always uses lots of words ... the summary is (his own words):

Yesterday I told you that MFS smashes the other sims in it’s representation of the world. Today, about the flight model I am not so sure. In the default aircraft I still feel some tweaking needs to be done, 

For a partner (he's the European distributor of the DVD box) that's a polite statement.

He also says the model has a lot of potential, but it's complex, it'll take hundreds of hours of tweaking to understand it and get it right.

Edited August 11, 2020 by RudyB24

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

24 minutes ago, RudyB24 said:

Matthijs Kok, Aerosoft, about the flight model:

https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/155247-thoughts-on-a-new-simulator-flight-models/&tab=comments#comment-992579

 

Thanks for sharing that 🙂

[Slides 1,552]

13 minutes ago, RudyB24 said:

He always uses lots of words ... the summary is (his own words):

Yesterday I told you that MFS smashes the other sims in it’s representation of the world. Today, about the flight model I am not so sure. In the default aircraft I still feel some tweaking needs to be done, 

For a partner (he's the European distributor of the DVD box) that's a polite statement.

Yeah, I don't know what his exact point is. He's all over the place.

[HiFlyer 9,436]

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

Some excellent stuff there.

Yup.

[Andreas Stangenes 1,628]

2 hours ago, Slides said:

Yeah, I don't know what his exact point is. He's all over the place.

The way I read his post is that he is very excited about MSFS. He is a bit raw, but I really appreciate that because it comes across as honest. He is a creative person that obviously loves airplanes and simming, and it means something when he as the head of one of the biggest publishers for flight sim addons is so excited for the new sim and the dynamisms in the sim. Of course, he is also a distributor of the retail discs of MSFS, so he is not totally unbiased. Still, he is veteran in the simming community, and I do belive he is being honest. Honest, hopeful and enthusiastic. Good stuff! 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Andreas Stangenes

[HiFlyer 9,436]

14 hours ago, BigDee said:

New entertaining video for those who love GTA V

As long as they had fun, I'm happy for him/her.

[tweekz 2,165]

1 hour ago, RudyB24 said:

He always uses lots of words ... the summary is (his own words):

Yesterday I told you that MFS smashes the other sims in it’s representation of the world. Today, about the flight model I am not so sure. In the default aircraft I still feel some tweaking needs to be done,

lol... you've cut an important part...

but the characteristics or the aircraft I know (like the Robin), is most certainly there. As add-on developers we are still trying to learn what is possible. Most certainly more than ever before, but we need to understand it. We need hundreds of hours of testing and tweaking. In the end I think FSX/P3D will be beaten hands down, X-Plane got a major fight on its hands.

 

[reignman40 450]

14 hours ago, BigDee said:

New entertaining video for those who love GTA V

How do we know the realism or physics settings weren't turned off or set to some kind of "game mode" ??

[MatthewS 761]

2 hours ago, RudyB24 said:

Matthijs Kok, Aerosoft, about the flight model:

https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/155247-thoughts-on-a-new-simulator-flight-models/&tab=comments#comment-992579

 

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Stepping back into 2019… I was visiting Asobo and one of the devs showed me how they model air flow over objects. They asked me to fly at a steady speed, steady heading, steady altitude over a runway with steady (!) cross wind.  Every time I got in the wind shadow of a hangar, I had to do some serious correction. Honestly, I made a mess of things. Simplifying the wind model to what FSX/P3D/X-plane does and it was easy. That is bloody amazing. What you see around you (buildings, trees) affects the aerodynamics.

Would be nice if there was a setting to display that moving air (the blue lines like we see in the video). Just for fun and to admire the efforts of Asobo with their flight modelling.