On 8/18/2020 at 2:57 AM, Weatherman said:

I simply can't believe that I can run it on "ultra" settings smoothly... on my i7 3770k with a GTX 970. That is just insane. Wow.

This thing is stunning. Thank you again, Asobo/MS.

And to all people considering a hardware upgrade: Just try it first. You might be really surprised how well it runs even on older hardware!

Well, I have a system that's very slightly "upscale" from yours: i7-6700K and GTX 980. 

As "Squirrel" put it in his YouTube video, a good idea for setting your configuration is to work with the A320 parked at gate 535 at EGLL, then turning on rain and using the time slider in the weather pop-up to check varying times of the day. (I found dawn was trickiest.)  I found that, given that scenario, I could get 30 FPS (and barely one more) with all "Medium" settings, and AI Traffic turned off. Try it at "High" and I get slightly under 30; at "Ultra," I get a <20 FOS slideshow. So, given that, "I simply can’t believe" it, either. 

I also found this oddity: originally, I was running my system overclocked to 4.7 GHz, but a recent BIOS update reset it to the default settings, and I never got around to setting it back. So, when I noticed that "High" settings were giving me nearly 30 FPS, I decided to restore the OC (I ran a lengthy stress test to make sure my system was stable at the new speed), figuring that I'd be able to stay in the "High" range for sure.  Not only did that NOT happen, but I was suddenly getting only around 20 FPS in the same scenario I'd used previously, even when I dialed the graphics down to "Low."  Go figure…

1 hour ago, DJJose said:

Today, if I install a sim, it better work out the box. It better be complete. It better feel right. If it doesn't meet my needs, it goes right to the trash bin.

In the last 10 years, what sim has worked out of the box (I.e.no patching, no addons) for you?

Wondering what people’s internet speed is and whether having less than say 100gb impacts FPS.  I understand the ideal speed recommended by MS is 50gb but wonder if more is better assuming you have a high end computer. I haven’t read much about internet speed and how it impacts the sim’s performance. 

4 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

In the last 10 years, what sim has worked out of the box (I.e.no patching, no addons) for you?

None! Hence my point and why I expect better than what I've experienced in the last 10 years.

So P3D4.5, or 5 didn’t last long on your hard drive?

14 minutes ago, JDWalley said:

Well, I have a system that's very slightly "upscale" from yours: i7-6700K and GTX 980. 

As "Squirrel" put it in his YouTube video, a good idea for setting your configuration is to work with the A320 parked at gate 535 at EGLL, then turning on rain and using the time slider in the weather pop-up to check varying times of the day. (I found dawn was trickiest.)  I found that, given that scenario, I could get 30 FPS (and barely one more) with all "Medium" settings, and AI Traffic turned off. Try it at "High" and I get slightly under 30; at "Ultra," I get a <20 FOS slideshow. So, given that, "I simply can’t believe" it, either. 

I also found this oddity: originally, I was running my system overclocked to 4.7 GHz, but a recent BIOS update reset it to the default settings, and I never got around to setting it back. So, when I noticed that "High" settings were giving me nearly 30 FPS, I decided to restore the OC (I ran a lengthy stress test to make sure my system was stable at the new speed), figuring that I'd be able to stay in the "High" range for sure.  Not only did that NOT happen, but I was suddenly getting only around 20 FPS in the same scenario I'd used previously, even when I dialed the graphics down to "Low."  Go figure…

If we trust "Squirrel" then we can deduce that even his test required all kinds of mixing and matching in order to achieve reasonable fps. Hence, a setting of "ultra" will not work in all situations with all the unique combinations of hardware. A "custom" setting is the one everyone is using. Maybe that's why it changes from "ultra" to "custom" the moment something is changed in the profile.

2 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

So P3D4.5, or 5 didn’t last long on your hard drive?

P3D v4.5HF3 is my current preferred sim and it took 10 years for it to get where it is. So maybe in 10 years MSFS will be all that it was hyped up to be.

50 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Don't be too surprised that you will be contacted...the 1070 is a trooper, as you must well know!   I had real anxiety if I could EVEN run MSFS to a satisfactory whatever...but bought it anyways...as I always had the option on finding that out...to update my system to current.  Very happy to find out that they did a great job (as I see it) to squeeze every last ounce out of any user's system!

Post Edit:  Jose..what does the FE mean after the 1070 nomenclature?!?    Is that a beefier 1070 specification?

FE in nvidia-isms, is typically in reference to the “Founders Edition” cards.these are typically the initially manufactured cards that nvidia puts their custom cooling solution on. There have been musings that they are “binned”, which is to say you’ll always have silicon that’s very capable but ultimately it means very little to the end user who is unlikely to fiddle around with the cards and their settings.

The stock performance of nvidia’s solutions have often left a lot to be desired so it’s typically better to get an AIB manufactured card.

4 minutes ago, DJJose said:

P3D v4.5HF3 is my current preferred sim and it took 10 years for it to get where it is. So maybe in 10 years MSFS will be all that it was hyped up to be.

Well that’s already a heavily patched version, and I assume you run it with some addons? I think you can see where I’m going with this. You’ve happily put up with imperfect versions of P3D for years. If that’s where you want your simming life to be, the. Do please stay there!

Just now, scotchegg said:

Well that’s already a heavily patched version, and I assume you run it with some addons? I think you can see where I’m going with this. You’ve happily put up with imperfect versions of P3D for years. If that’s where you want your simming life to be, the. Do please stay there!

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Keep your head under the sand.

7 minutes ago, DJJose said:

If we trust "Squirrel" then we can deduce that even his test required all kinds of mixing and matching in order to achieve reasonable fps. Hence, a setting of "ultra" will not work in all situations with all the unique combinations of hardware. A "custom" setting is the one everyone is using. Maybe that's why it changes from "ultra" to "custom" the moment something is changed in the profile.

Does this on pretty much any game and is advised for most people. Everyone has their own opinion on what is nice to look at. For example, many gamers I know hate any type of motion blur so that’s instantly removed. I have a good friend who hates any type of AA. He prefers the jaggies as the “clearer” picture to him is better than the smoother picture.

im not a big fan of chromatic aberration so I tend to remove that if the game uses it. I also prefer super sampling to the more abundantly used aa methods (TAA, FXAA etc). 
 

unlike most simmers I’m also not a fan of 30 FPS. I’d like a minimum of 60. So I tend to run my graphics lower to achieve this. I can achieve near 60 with everything on low on my 970. But I have to scale my resolution as I bought my 970 when I had a 1080 monitor but now I have a 1440 monitor. Looking forward to upgrading.

Strange, I was looking forward to the dissapointment of seeing severe stutters on my humble pc...especially seeing high end rigs faltering......yet I'm amazed, virtually stutter free, and smooth, on global high setting.....that's with an i7 6700, gtx970, and 16gb ram........happy bunny for now....I'll get a better card for pmdg though......

1 hour ago, Sesquashtoo said:

I stated in my Dark Side post...that if I stay out of big iron cockpits...I'm good with the settings I posted...but for myself...that perfectly aligns with the 97 percent of the flights I take...G.A. mostly.  For those that prefer the 'tubes...they will have to make their due diligence with that in mind. For myself...MSFS has been mostly  OMG, in every flight!  

Agreed. I will check out the big aeroplanes, but I see myself being more a lighter aircraft user.

19 minutes ago, DJJose said:

"Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

Keep your head under the sand.

That’s, erm, pretty pompous.

Especially for somebody who’s chosen to use such an uninspiring platform as P3D to be the hill on which they stake everything.

Edited August 21, 20205 yr by scotchegg

1 hour ago, scotchegg said:

That’s, erm, pretty pompous.

Especially for somebody who’s chosen to use such an uninspiring platform as P3D to be the hill on which they stake everything.

I'll choose a working, stable, professional 10 year old sim over a buggy game wanting to disguise itself as a "sim" any day of the week and twice on Sundays. I would not recommend this sim to my worst enemy and definitely not to a student pilot. Pilot training is not a game.