8 minutes ago, LHookins said:

The real world pilots in the Beta were a lot more forgiving of the flight model than the simmers.  I won't speculate on why this was so but I'll take their word for it.

Hook

By the way there is an adverse yaw in some low wing! But you gotta know, most ailerons are rigged to defuse it 🙂
 

My personal opinion. When people fill out application for testing, there was question about actual flying experience. Testers who are certified pilots should have  been asked  to fill out like FAA 8710 form. Then pilots  should have been grouped based on their experience in each type or similar type. Then each group should have been focused on  airplane they are familiar with via test coordinator. But this only my fantasy, not a really what happened. 

i am perfectly happy with the game as it is right now, it will only get better.

some ppl only see the negative, the issue. those miss out badly on the fun.

vfr flying had never been so much fun like ke this , out of box, the light aircraft perform prety well.

 

14 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

By the way there is an adverse yaw in some low wing! But you gotta know, most ailerons are rigged to defuse it 🙂

I know about differential ailerons. 🙂  I know the Cessna 150 I took lessons in didn't have them, and wouldn't expect the 152 to have them either.  My pilot buddy's 172 doesn't have them either.

The code may be there, but the variables are zero so it's not implemented.  This is appropriate for a first time simmer, if not for me.  But I suspect I can fix it, like I've done on P3D aircraft.

Hook

43 minutes ago, Mr. Hatty said:

Until then, have fun in your sandbox kids.

Okay, grandpa...🤨

10 minutes ago, LHookins said:

I know about differential ailerons. 🙂  I know the Cessna 150 I took lessons in didn't have them, and wouldn't expect the 152 to have them either.  My pilot buddy's 172 doesn't have them either.

The code may be there, but the variables are zero so it's not implemented.  This is appropriate for a first time simmer, if not for me.  But I suspect I can fix it, like I've done on P3D aircraft.

Hook

This was probably older model. I mostly fly M,N,P,R,S they are all rigged to counter act adverse yaw as far as I remember. I did some instruction in B but it was more like a substitute airplane when other were on maintenance. Plus B model, instead of lycoming had a "leaky" 6 cylinders Continental . Very smooth running engine but only 140-150hp

31 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

My personal opinion that due to COVID-19 economy downtime, recession decision was made to push game out of the gate as is.

Also development effort suffered due to remote work. In one of the interviews, Asobo mentioned that doing team work when remote is hard for such a complex project where a solution needs to come from in person discussions. 

9 minutes ago, apechmann said:

Okay, grandpa...🤨

Heh!  I got a dollar that says I'm older than him. 😄 By my age some people have great grandchildren.  But I'm only 70, young compared to many others here.

Hook

Just now, sd_flyer said:

This was probably older model. I mostly fly M,N,P,R,S they are all rigged to counter act adverse yaw as far as I remember. I did some instruction in B but it was more like a substitute airplane when other were on maintenance. Plus B model, instead of lycoming had a "leaky" 6 cylinders Continental . Very smooth running engine but only 140-150hp

That's the other thing. There are so many variations of even the same aircraft model that if any developer listened to input from all pilots, they would never get anything done. Especially when you have so many aircraft to create unlike a study  level aircraft.

Wait, so the release of P3Dv5 was much more polished according to you? 

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1 minute ago, Slides said:

That's the other thing. There are so many variations of even the same aircraft model that if any developer listened to input from all pilots, they would never get anything done. Especially when you have so many aircraft to create unlike a study  level aircraft.

I knew an owner who bought last "steam gauges" 172 directly from Cessna and brag about it because it was hard to get, since at some point Cessna started making only G1000 option. It was S model so that what Asobo presented in MSFS. I mean starting from R no more carb heat! 🙂

Just now, omarsmak30 said:

Wait, so the release of P3Dv5 was mush more polished according to you? 

Heh!  "Mush" more polished.  Accidentally appropriate.  I'll be sticking with P3Dv4 at least until Enhanced Atmospherics is out of beta.  They were obviously rushed to market because of the pending MSFS release.  I'll be rough to fly it after MSFS though, except for some exceptional aircraft.

Hook

Well MS basically released a paid version of the beta and made millions so now MS and the team have to deliver hotfixes to get this sim working properly.

Oh guys I hope you have read people bashing default 172 in XP11 over the years. Same old  problems adverse yaw, power settings,  and etc LOL

1 minute ago, LHookins said:

Heh!  "Mush" more polished.  Accidentally appropriate.  I'll be sticking with P3Dv4 at least until Enhanced Atmospherics is out of beta.  They were obviously rushed to market because of the pending MSFS release.  I'll be rough to fly it after MSFS though, except for some exceptional aircraft.

Hook

Indeed, if we are talking about rush release, P3Dv5 fits that. Until today on my machine, it has never been stable (never installed anything not compatible with it), until one point I just gave up on it.