There's really no need to get insulting. My point was - and your post was symptomatic in a way - that there seems to be a lot of "MSFS is perfect out of the box" going around lately. Reality is that it's not, and guess what, it's not supposed to be. So, mods/add-ons are inevitably going to be a must, and some of them are going to cost. Is MSFS + a couple of free mods/add-ons perfect for Christopher's needs? Let's let him decide.

He you go again turning twisting thing, it's like chinese whispers for you, Christopher does not want to get into a buying habit, from what I have seen and explain he would be good to go as it is. Never did I say MSFS was perfect out the box, I said IMO it was a perfect fit for his needs, not yours or mine or anyone else's. Then you carry on about the in's and out of mod's to suit your agender, to nikpik to death. I love the way you twist mods into addon and then costing money.

Edited September 11, 20205 yr by Nyxx

You seem to be getting a little emotional here and are reading things I didn't write, aka "twisting". So, let's let this be.

Calm down, guys. It's Friday!

It's worth noting that, since I mainly fly around the UK and Ireland (and the Netherlands) in P3Dv4.5HF2, I could argue that I already have the equal of the new Microsoft Flight Simulator with respect to scenery. I have complete TrueEarth coverage of Great Britain (with detailed airports and airfields throughout; courtesy of UK2000) and the Netherlands (FlyTampa Amsterdam Schiphol). TrueEarth packages include all of those electricity pylons, radio towers, wind turbines, power stations and other VFR landmarks that are desirable for realistic cross country flights, and the only destination that I fly to in Ireland (Dublin) is amply served in the scenery department by MK Studios Dublin International (and surrounding autogen), PrealSoft Dublin city (with lots of detailed custom objects and autogen), and PlayHorizon VFR Photographic Scenery Ireland East for those nice coastlines and islands.

In short, this is why I am reluctant to spend more money on something that may not (yet) meet my requirements in the UK. The scenery may well look great, but how detailed are the airports and airfields when compared to my existing P3Dv4 scenery? Where are the complex PMDG airliners that I like to fly? They may be coming, but I am willing to bet that they are a lot further down the line than some people seem to think.

At the end of the day, it does not matter. Just chill out, relax, and enjoy your flights over the weekend in whatever simulator you like best. I will probably be driving some nice supercars in Assetto Corsa, but that's another story

Edited September 11, 20205 yr by Christopher Low

supercars are best in iracing ..........lol😆

Never tried iRacing, but of the other Assetto Corsa drivers that I used to know online, most of them rated the physics in Assetto Corsa as the better of the two.

3 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

In short, this is why I am reluctant to spend more money on something that may not (yet) meet my requirements in the UK.

I would say you are better off remaining with what you have at the moment. As much as I love MSFS - and it is currently the only sim I use - if I were only flying over the UK then I think Orbx do it better with TE, at least it is in XP11, as I have no experience with the P3D version.  The UK in MSFS is very good on the whole, and the base texture is fine, but the autogen is lacking, with too many office buildings in rural areas, missing power lines and masts.

If you like globe hopping, as I do, then MSFS is a wonderful addition to any sim collection, but probably not worth splashing out on if that is of little interest.

20 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Calm down, guys. It's Friday!

It's worth noting that, since I mainly fly around the UK and Ireland (and the Netherlands) in P3Dv4.5HF2, I could argue that I already have the equal of the new Microsoft Flight Simulator with respect to scenery. I have complete TrueEarth coverage of Great Britain (with detailed airports and airfields throughout; courtesy of UK2000) and the Netherlands (FlyTampa Amsterdam Schiphol). TrueEarth packages include all of those electricity pylons, radio towers, wind turbines, power stations and other VFR landmarks that are desirable for realistic cross country flights, and the only destination that I fly to in Ireland (Dublin) is amply served in the scenery department by MK Studios Dublin International (and surrounding autogen), PrealSoft Dublin city (with lots of detailed custom objects and autogen), and PlayHorizon VFR Photographic Scenery Ireland East for those nice coastlines and islands.

In short, this is why I am reluctant to spend more money on something that may not (yet) meet my requirements in the UK. The scenery may well look great, but how detailed are the airports and airfields when compared to my existing P3Dv4 scenery? Where are the complex PMDG airliners that I like to fly? They may be coming, but I am willing to bet that they are a lot further down the line than some people seem to think.

At the end of the day, it does not matter. Just chill out, relax, and enjoy your flights over the weekend in whatever simulator you like best. I will probably be driving some nice supercars in Assetto Corsa, but that's another story

P3Dv5 with PR scenery + custom AG + POIs like the TE series look very realistic.

At this very moment :
P3Dv5 PR only with modified shaders and custom sun/clouds with Live Weather and Live Traffic : 

And a little later :

 

 

Edited September 12, 20205 yr by GSalden