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How to know an X-Plane guy.

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OR just give me a call on the phone, 555-Xplane

Not really an Xplane guy, just need more addons for this thing.

 

Edited by SceneryFX

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Aren't these gentlemen sent down to the basement now, to the X-Files?

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The OP is not absolutely right.

I play mostly on the "ease of uninstall" side...

The easier and faster the uninstall of a sim, the more I prefer it, hence, I do prefer XP over MFS...

This being said, well, for me the graphics are always in far 2nd plane. My main aim are flight, systems and weather models. In that area an X-Plane guy can still compare features that can be modeled in X-Plane and not yet ( at least described in documentation ) in MFS. There are rather basic features in this set, like for instance simply modeling a canted vertical stabilizer often used in the "older" prop aircraft to overcome propwash effects, or in the weather area something as simple as being able to define reported prevailing visibility ( this one I really hope can get addressed by the MFS teams soon... ).

Another area where an XP user who also fell in love with MFS but does not have the rig to properly run it can easily b glimpsed is in comparing performances. Heck! I get 60+ fps in my XP11.50 with Vulkan, where in MFS I can barely maintain 30 fps under most circumstances in this public release version 😕 

"The feel of flight" is very much alike between the sims, at least if one restricts the tests to the default aircraft.

I honestly think both platforms have ingenious approaches to modelling flight on our World. This applies to the graphics and overall world rendering that is unique in MFS, and requires heavy tuning in XP and a lot of disk space if you want to optimize it in either sim, weather, which presents some really astounding graphic features in MFS, while lacking the required fine tuning on their approach of integrating a World Wide Weather Model with observation data, and in X-Plane the long time unaddressed display of weather and even some poor modeling of some of it's physical / mechanical effects.

Both sims still lag behind simulators like Flight Gear, DCS World and Il2 Battle of Stalingrad in the representation of some weather features that are really important IRL. For instance, apparently MFS weather model is not correctly modeling air density in a way that reflects in in terms of density altitude. This was done in FSX, and I believe is done in P3D, and s for sure done in XP too.... Then again none of the sims models non-ISA pressure variation with altitude ( geopotential height is always std )...

So, a XP guy, which can also be a MFS, FSX, P3D, DCS, IL2, PSX... guy, is sometimes more difficult to tell than the OP suggests 😉

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7 hours ago, bartp71 said:

Can you play MFS on an Iphone? No!...  Well, I can with Ex-Plane! 😂

Don`t worry that`s coming play on any device Cloud gaming,

 

Raymond Fry.

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15 hours ago, Dillon said:

XPlane guys don't think ATC, AI, and real world weather is too important.  Only flight dynamics and scenery is what matters (more so flight dynamics).

What you don't know is what a Xplane guy knows:

Laminar does not just developed solutions that you see on the surface as much as they deliver on newer technology underneath the hood. Their mission is their name Research is what they do. The last few years, all their concentration has been is delivering newer or better ways for doing things which departs from the old ways of doing things and that’s never going the change. HDR lighting, particle systems, PBR material, Fmod for sounds and improving the flight modeling all are influential technology that has impacted the flight sim genre. There last bid is moving to the new Vulkan api which will be the engine to push performance for the next round of newer technology in the near future. That’s because they understand what it will take to deliver the things that people want, better weather systems, procedural season, improve lighting and many more feature unknowns to all of us. Without getting into this tit for tack arguments over one’s way is better than the other, those solution are not your copycat, look over the shoulder ideas; of their competitors’ way of doing things. They where implement with the pure focus of enhancing the flight sim users experience in that sim that we all want to enjoy. For pilots who want to enjoy flying an aircraft they feel best represents their experience, that’s what is important to them, not define by someone else who only to just gaze out the window to just see some pretty scenery.

If they want that level of scenery, they are not afraid to load it up on their own since the sim is capable of the supporting it as well.

Edited by BobFS88

This topic reminds me of an old fighter pilot joke.  I've adapted it:

Q:  "How do you know if someone is an XPlane guy?" 

A:  "Just wait...he'll tell you"

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

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Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
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