3 hours ago, FDj said:

Is that near Chamonix? I also noticed that the mesh in MSFS is weak in that particular area. This is especially interesting as one of the loading screens in MSFS (and we spend a lot of time looking at loading screens in MSFS...) suggests flying to Chamonix to look at Mont Blanc. 

No. It's in right at border of the german speaking part of Italy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tre_Cime_di_Lavaredo

Apparently it depends on the area... and maybe on the nitpickiness of the beholder. I have seen areas where the mesh looked really good and others where it‘s really bad (to the point that the couldn‘t recognize the mountains anymore), e.g. in the Swiss Alps and the Dolomites. Maybe I‘m a bit more on the nitpicky side in this regard. Anyway, I just hope that MS/Asobo/Bing update their mesh or that we can do it ourselves locally.

Where the mesh is good it really does look very good, but there are also some right stinkers, a classic (and how did this escape notice?) is the river that runs alongside the Taj Mahal, the model of the building is amazing, but the water runs right up the mesh, you would have thought that such a likely well visited area would have had some special attention to detail!  I do also note, especially in the UK (where I know what the coast looks like) there is a difinite tendency for the mesh to slope of into the sea rather than have proper cliffs. If the land here sloped down like that I would not have half as much bother trying to find a spot to fish from. I do hope it gets tidied up. Don't get me wrong, I like the new sim, but you do have to find quite a lot of work rounds atm.

17 hours ago, LarryD said:

 

 

Didn't know that!  What are the 2020 standards?  Can you possibly point us to the standards committee specifcations for terrain mesh?  At least we could then inform Asobo where to look to make a descent looking sim.

 

 

 

<insert eye roll emoji here>

There are quite a few terrain mesh anomalies in MSFS, as you should know if you've been paying attention.

Compared to X-plane, FSX-SE and particularly P3D v5, the mesh quality is substandard for the year 2020, which happens to be the current year.

2020 standards - seeing you asked, facetiously - are the standards that every other sim seems to be able to manage in 2020. A discerning simmer in 2020 does not expect Greenland to be covered in crazy plateaus.

I mentioned this only because the OP claimed that terrain mesh was "good feedback for a change". There are lots of good things about MSFS I could feedback, but terrain mesh would not be anywhere on my list. I am surprised that Asobo did not correct the more egregious anomalies prior to release.

Terrain mesh is absolutely amazing in most places I've been flying. It's not flawless, but it's better than any other sim I've tried.

The biggest flaw I've personally encountered has less to do with terrain and more with how rivers are rendered. There are places where the river should be down at the bottom of a ravine / gorge, but instead it's "flooding" right up to the top. Of course this means that cool waterfalls that should exist in these places don't. I'm not talking Niagara, but rather the local falls in my area. Then further down the river there will be this weird "stair step" effect where the river lowers unnaturally. Asobo apparently did not give waterfalls much thought, but I feel this is a separate issue from the mesh.

MSFS in ORBX TE ??, this could be why ORBX do not do seasons in TE P3D now.

The problem with the mesh is that someone obviously decided by human intervention, which areas deserve a higher resolution and which don't. Kind of like with photogrammetry someone looked at usage data and then updated the areas that most people visit in Bing.

With a global project like MSFS that is simply not a good approach. You need high resolution terrain mesh EVERYWHERE, because you want to be able to fly anywhere without the terrain looking like just an afterthought of reality.

Edited September 1, 20205 yr by Farlis

Orthos4XP already works in FS2020.

New Mesh is just a matter of time (a few people already working on it)

1 hour ago, tangerine said:

Orthos4XP already works in FS2020.

New Mesh is just a matter of time (a few people already working on it)

This is excellent news! Of course I wish it could be done natively, but having the option to fine tune specific regions is already a big improvement. I hope it‘s also possible to only improve the mesh and leave the imagery. 

Edited September 1, 20205 yr by Shack95

Orth4XP, or something similar, would be an amazing possibility especially if the Geo Tif Arc files people have already downloaded could be reused. The USGS 1/3 Arc mesh is available for all of the United States, not sure about other countries.

I think terrain mesh (DEM) is one of the weakest link in this otherwise beautiful sim. The mountains and hills look too smooth and rounded. If you fly above the same area in P3D or Xplane with high resolution terrain mesh and you will see the difference. 

1 hour ago, tangerine said:

Orthos4XP already works in FS2020.

New Mesh is just a matter of time (a few people already working on it)

What do you mean by saying "Orthos4XP already works in FS2020"? How and why? Doesn't  FS2020 already have global orthos built in?  

Flying at night mostly in Africa past few days and terrain looks fine 😛  

Serious though even early morning when the sun is up have not really seen any issues in Africa. 

10 minutes ago, yanfeng12342000 said:

What do you mean by saying "Orthos4XP already works in FS2020"? How and why? Doesn't  FS2020 already have global orthos built in?  

It does...from Bing with data which is as old as 2012 in some places. But you got the option to download any fresh data and put it whatever place you want.

Edited September 1, 20205 yr by tangerine