The title says it all. Lefteris Kalamaras has just posted on their forum Concorde is "unpaused". No mention of which platform but I have asked. Not before time!

https://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/26815-unpaused/

Although not officially confirmed the opinion of one qualified user it's for P3Dv5.

A lot depends on how the new MS sim works out in terms of supporting complex stuff and whether FSL are considering pointing their Concorde at that. If the new sim's SDK and development capabilities can get all its ducks in a row fairly quickly, which many developers are keen to see happen and are assisting with too, then things might be rosy.

But unless FSL is really well advanced with making their Concorde and envisage being able to get it out of the door within a year, I suspect making it for P3D would be commercial suicide. It's an iconic aeroplane, and we know everyone likes it (especially in the UK), but I just don't see enough people buying a niche aeroplane for the best part of 150 quid for P3D when it is a sim which many people are, or probably will be, waving goodbye to. Lots of people have even stopped buying 20 quid airports for the thing so they're hardly gonna stump up the cash for an FSL Concorde.

If it is confirmed as P3Dv5, you could argue that maybe FSL do not see the new Microsoft Flight Simulator as a (currently) viable platform for complex "study level" airliners.....

Edited September 3, 20205 yr by Christopher Low

I'm guessing it's for P3Dv5. As the SDK is still incomplete it may take awhile to bring the Concorde into MSFS2020. Beside the Concorde following is by a dedicated group, I find it hard to believe that FSLabs first 2020 release would be the Concorde when the Airbus would bring them way more profit for a 2020 release.  

Edited September 3, 20205 yr by Wise87

19 minutes ago, Chock said:

But unless FSL is really well advanced with making their Concorde and envisage being able to get it out of the door within a year, I suspect making it for P3D would be commercial suicide. It's an iconic aeroplane, and we know everyone likes it (especially in the UK), but I just don't see enough people buying a niche aeroplane for the best part of 150 quid for P3D when it is a sim which many people are, or probably will be, waving goodbye to. Lots of people have even stopped buying 20 quid airports for the thing so they're hardly gonna stump up the cash for an FSL Concorde.

They've obviously given the decision a great deal of thought and the quality of their aircraft is beyond reproach. No way could they develop for MFS until the SDK was complete and there's no timescale for that. Besides how would the scenery cope with an aircraft flying 2.5 times faster than anything currently in MFS?

There is a reasonably sized group of us who are more than happy to pay for what in all likelihood could be the last really accurate Concorde for a flight simulator. The X-Plane version is still being developed and discussion of it here in AvSim is minimal. The two other versions in development won't be to the standard of FSL. Andrew has the most knowledge of Concorde in the sim world. It's his predecessor to FSX that's in use at Brooklands after all.

Hard to say how much extra work was involved in converting from the 32-bit version. I doubt they started with a clean sheet of paper. The beta may be imminent.

How long did it take FSL to make their A320? Was it seven years? Now granted they've already done a lot of the work for the Concorde and had a stab at it before, so I doubt we'd be looking at that kind of time span, but realistically even considering that preceding groundwork, I don't think a two-year development time-span would be an unrealistic guess for them to get a P3D V5 Concorde on sale unless they've been working on it for a while and it's only the announcement which is coming now.

Do we really think the new MS sim is going to be approaching anywhere near that length of time to be in a condition where it isn't capable of supporting complex add-on airliners, particularly when PMDG, Aerosoft, Majestic, Milviz and A2A etc have all hitched their wagon to that particular star and all said they're going for it? Sure there are problems, but there is a lot of impetus to get the new MS sim in a condition ready for fancier add-ons and a lot of money and pressure behind it as well; we know this is what MS wants simply by virtue of the built-in marketplace.

Where is that going to leave P3D and a 150 quid add-on niche aeroplane solely for that sim in two years time? This compared to the effort of getting their A320 ready for the new sim when we know the FSL A320 is, in spite of its price tag, a massively popular seller with it being one of the the best flight sim aeroplanes ever made.

Everyone who has P3D who wanted an A320, has already bought their A320 and is not going to do so again. I've bought it twice lol, but if they want me to make that a sales hat-trick, it's gonna have to be for the new MS sim. The new MS flight sim is the way things are going and nothing is going to stop that.

This doesn't mean P3D will disappear, but if I was aiming at making an add-on aeroplane which was a realistic simulation of the pinnacle of aerospace engineering, and it was contingent upon a cr@pload of sales to make it worth doing financially, I know which sim I'd be aiming it at, and it wouldn't be P3D or XPlane.

I see MFS as a VFR simulator and P3D as an IFR one. Who knows what the future will bring with these two products? FSL exist to make money and they clearly think Concorde in 64-bit P3D will do that. I suspect Concorde development has been going on quietly for a while. Remember FSL announced worked was paused when Microsoft announced MFS 15 months ago. Most of the development might have been concluded by then. Today it's "unpaused". 👍

I have no desire to fly the A320 but I accept it's a quality aircraft and sells well. Always been a Boeing fan as I prefer a yoke to flying with a ten quid joystick! 😁

I'm happy to buy MFS once things have settled down but I'll be flying a GA and sightseeing around the world. Viewing places from six miles up doesn't reveal much in all honesty.

But to be able to use the power of my computer for Concorde will be a huge boost having had to restrict settings to keep VAS manageable. Remember VAS? Some of us still have to cope with it! 😉

Great news and I'd definitely buy a P3Dv5 version. However I'd like to know what "unpaused" means before I start choking on my coffee. Does it mean they are developing it or thinking about it?

Ted

7 minutes ago, Ted Striker said:

Great news and I'd definitely buy a P3Dv5 version. However I'd like to know what "unpaused" means before I start choking on my coffee. Does it mean they are developing it or thinking about it?

Ted

FSL announced last year that work on Concorde had paused whilst they took stock following the announcement from Microsoft of Flight Simulator. Fifteen months of wondering if we'd ever see a 64-bit version was answered today.

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Although not officially confirmed the opinion of one qualified user it's for P3Dv5.

I'm not sure that it's good to speculate or guess things like this, the simple fact is nobody knows.  I'm sure by now people know that FSLabs give information when they deem it appropriate and the only thing that they have said is that the project is "un-paused". 

Let us be pleased that there is light at the end of the tunnel, but none of us know how long the tunnel is, what colour the light is, how long it will take to reach the light, etc, etc...

I took part in their user “poll” three long years ago and told them I’d buy a Concorde addon. At the time I was (of course) using P3D and I would happily have bought it for P3D.

That was then. Things have changed! I will now absolutely not buy any Concorde addon for P3D. I’d buy an MSFS addon from FSL in a heartbeat.

Agree 100% with Alan that FSL should think very carefully before committing to a long-term development for a sim with an already relatively small — and now diminishing — user base.

James

I would buy it for P3DV5 but not MSFS, i don`t think it will be able to run it at a reasonable performance, P3Dv5 IFR, MSFS VFR i candy. 

I would love to fly a Concorde and would have been really excited by this announcement a few months ago before the MSFS release date was announced.  As of now i can’t see myself buying anything new for P3Dv5.  I’ll still dabble in P3D for now when I get a hankering to fly the FSL Airbus or Majestic Q400, but that’s about it.

30 minutes ago, trumpetfrazz1 said:

I'm not sure that it's good to speculate or guess things like this, the simple fact is nobody knows.  I'm sure by now people know that FSLabs give information when they deem it appropriate and the only thing that they have said is that the project is "un-paused". 

Let us be pleased that there is light at the end of the tunnel, but none of us know how long the tunnel is, what colour the light is, how long it will take to reach the light, etc, etc...

If you look at the FSL forum you'll see it was David Norfolk who decided it was probably P3Dv5 given the PBR effects. It seems inconceivable it would be MFS given the state of the SDK.