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VRAM, new graphics cards and MSFS

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1 minute ago, micstatic said:

My settings are high in many cases but certainly not maxed. And I lock to 30. I get not everybody feels like spending this kind of money. But vram limitation is very much a thing 

Why can’t the sim switch to using memory? What’s the point of having 32Gb RAM if it’s not being used?

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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2 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

MFS or P3Dv5? Both are new releases and I suspect things can be tweaked to reduce VRAM consumption.

V5. It’s my primary sim and likely will be for 1-2 yrs. not much development going on in terms of that as almost everybody is focused on msfs.  So for me I can afford to introduce this card and also increase some settings. It’s a winner 

5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW  and 2  22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU,  360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next

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26 minutes ago, micstatic said:

V5. It’s my primary sim and likely will be for 1-2 yrs. not much development going on in terms of that as almost everybody is focused on msfs.  So for me I can afford to introduce this card and also increase some settings. It’s a winner 

I would prefer to stay with P3D. It’s an established product and most of my addons will work with it. People were reporting better performance over v4 as well so I’m sure these DX12  RAM issues will improve with further hot fixes.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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I hope so ray. I own both sims but in current day I have lost interest in msfs. Even though the visuals are fantastic. I’m just an ifr airline guy and for that we have some serious issues with it 

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4 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I hope so ray. I own both sims but in current day I have lost interest in msfs. Even though the visuals are fantastic. I’m just an ifr airline guy and for that we have some serious issues with it 

I always thought Microsoft Flight Simulator was a Microsoft product created by the software experts at Redmond. After all, it has Microsoft’s name on the (virtual) box.

But of course it isn’t. It’s created by a French company with no previous experience in flight simulation. That might go some way in explaining its pretty dreadful state on release.

I have no idea how much involvement Microsoft had in its development but they appear to have decided on its release date when it had only been in beta for a short time.

I won’t be going near it for a very long time. Having said that I have both admiration and sympathy for all those who have bought it because as a result of their efforts it should become the product it would have been had it been properly tested in the first place. 

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

That might go some way in explaining its pretty dreadful state on release.  

Just a different opinion... Having flown MSFS for close to a month now, I happen to think that it is a pretty remarkable effort for a V1.0. release.. 🙂

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1 minute ago, Bert Pieke said:

Just a different opinion... Having flown MSFS for close to a month now, I happen to think that it is a pretty remarkable effort for a V1.0. release.. 🙂

Fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I always thought Microsoft Flight Simulator was a Microsoft product created by the software experts at Redmond. After all, it has Microsoft’s name on the (virtual) box.

Microsoft is the publisher, not the developer.

6 hours ago, ANCRM114 said:

I'm content with my RTX 2060 Super performance for now.  I'll be waiting for a RTX 3080 Super/Ti/??? with hopefully 16GB of RAM. To be a bit more future proof.  I can't justify the cost of the 2090.

I might also settle on 16Gb if the price was very right versus the 3090.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

1 hour ago, Bert Pieke said:

Just a different opinion... Having flown MSFS for close to a month now, I happen to think that it is a pretty remarkable effort for a V1.0. release.. 🙂

I could not agree more.  It is nothing short of revolutionary on so many levels.  There are a basket full of little improvements that are becoming too numerous to mention as I learn the sim.  To me it primarily needs more fine-tuning for the weather system & cloud generation and morphology, some aspects of the night lighting system, some improvements in camera setup and the flight planner, and a little more fine tuning of coloration in the scenery, but it's already spectacular out of the box.  So yes, it seems mainly to need tweaking, NOT an overhaul.  We seem to really need an FSUIPC where button presses can deliver key presses because it seems keyboard and yoke/throttle controls don't overlap so you can do one or the other or both.  I'd like to see the right-mouse button able to operate a drop-down menu as FSX/P3D do which is very efficient and most everyone is used to it.  I am stoked it is showing there is massive CPU headroom--all 16 threads happily running very cool frequently in the 20-28% range for each thread, so that is hyperthreaded temps of around 48-52C on air cooling in summer.   I think this implies serious headroom for study-level planes to exploit.  Picking up a serious GPU upgrade will really make this sim shine.  I love the fact the entire install is complete and the built-in Marketplace seems fabulous.  So nice to not have to install what 30 different products to get it where you need it to be?  All of the ORBX stuff, all of the planes, etc.  10 different package installers from various vendors to install and update, direct from developer, etc etc.   

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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9 hours ago, neil0311 said:

Microsoft is the publisher, not the developer.

Not a mention of Asobo on the front cover of the 'box'. Given Microsoft has been the publisher of all previous versions of "Flight Simulator" that is somewhat misleading.

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Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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True, getting bit of topic though ;).

 

So, for VRAm people say +8.. The price increase is insane though going from 8 to more.. hmm.

Edited by Victoroos

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3 minutes ago, Victoroos said:

True, getting bit of topic though ;).

Agreed so I shall say no more. 👍

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

Cheadle Hulme Weather website.

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6 hours ago, Victoroos said:

The price increase is insane though going from 8 to more.. hmm.

You can rest assured the added 16Gb of GDDR6 cost the manufacturer all of about $20 to add.  It's a conspiracy!  Yep, it is!

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Not a mention of Asobo on the front cover of the 'box'. Given Microsoft has been the publisher of all previous versions of "Flight Simulator" that is somewhat misleading.

MFS.jpg

I bought the digital version of MSFS 2020, so don’t know what it says on the packaging. All of the previous versions were both developed and published by Microsoft, so this is a little bit of a change, but not unusual in the software gaming market. 

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