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35 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

That's because it doesn't depict live weather so it doesn't worry about changes in the weather.

J, I just googled a metar of my local Airport EGNX.

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And just loaded up the sim to see.

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and this

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That's as close as I would ever need. 🙂

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With all this super high technology of a modern sim, I really dont see why both requirements of the local Metar and the mid to upper level atmosphere cannot be properly depicted.   I am still holding to the standard that a Metar is one human's view of a surrounding aerodrome from the perspective of the ground. Can occasionally be far apart depending where you are.  Thats its focus. Dep and Arr from the airport have accurate wx in say a 10mile radius.  Anything else has to be calculated, thus the data from meteoblue, from all the satellite data , wx balloons, pilot reports, etc.  Just dont see how you can use either or. So now this becomes quite the tug of war.   From my experiences, the default wx can be bang on accurate to the target airport, and with jaw dropping visual depiction at times, and yet other times, it completely misses the mark. Go figure.  Lets just call it growing pains, that eventually get sorted out.  And yes Im a live real wx advocate.  We have pretty fairly accurate aircraft, real world charts, now much better scenery, it shouldnt be a stretch to want accurate live wx with whatever method works.  In 2020, this should be figured out with all the coding magic that goes on. 


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The problem with METAR weather reports when it comes to clouds, is that the only information it contains is the AGL altitude of the bases, and the coverage (overcast, broken, scattered). There is no indication of what kind of clouds they are (unless the METAR specifically reports CB or TRW). No indication of their vertical extent, or specific locations (in the case of broken or scattered). 

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16 minutes ago, Adrian123 said:

Why would that be an option?

Very low end systems may need it.


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Sooo... in essence (as far as I understand it):

  1. If you want to simulate the global weather in model, where fronts, thunderstorms, rain clouds etc are modeled everywhere in the world in real-time (but maybe slightly behind real-time weather), use the default MSFS Live Weather feature.
    1. Advantages:
      • Simulated weather fronts.
      • Fully modeled and realistic weather everywhere on the globe.
      • One global system and simulation of weather system and air simulation. 
    2. Draw-backs:
      • Not exactly match of real-world weather conditions at real-time.
      • Live weather conditions, may differ from simulated conditions.
         
  2. If you want dead accurate weather - but only on the airports (or where METAR stations are presently reporting weather data), then use the new REX Weather Force.
    1. Advantages:
      • Accurate weather in airports from METAR stations.
      • Useful for presenting correct real live weather conditions. 
    2. Draw-backs:
      • METAR station weather, will be injected and depicted everywhere in all directions.
      • Cloud/weather smoothing (possible cloud-redraws?).
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7 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I'll wait and see if this add-on will cause problems with next update before I decide to buy it.

As are my thoughts as well.  Microsoft made live weather, and living world a value proposition during the lead up to where we are, and I cannot imagine them abandoning that.  I am willing to wager that each new iteration of the sim will improve on the current state, which, in my own particular situation has not been far from reality based upon the weather instruments I own at my home and my own observation of clouds.

That being said, I like what REX has done here, and as others have articulated, looks to fill some current gaps.

The single concern I have, is that Asobo can fairly easily close the door that REX has used to provide this service and then what?

For me, I would like to see the base sim close up some of the obvious gaps, but if not this could be an excellent alternative.

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Its been a long time since I was so dissapointed in a product as with rex weather force. It it doesnt even do what I exlusively bought it for: correct baro settings and wind. For my departure the insim qnh was incorrectly 1013. The clouds were flat and uninspired. To use this app you give up one of the biggest gains in modern simulation namely cloud depiction in default msfs. 

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5 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

Its been a long time since I was so dissapointed in a product as with rex weather force. It it doesnt even do what I exlusively bought it for: correct baro settings and wind. For my departure the insim qnh was incorrectly 1013. The clouds were flat and uninspired. To use this app you give up one of the biggest gains in modern simulation namely cloud depiction in default msfs. 

Weather Force DOES NOT modify clouds textures nor models, what you get in the default you get in REX Weather Force. The baro is something REX is looking.

 


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1 minute ago, fs1 said:

Weather Force DOES NOT modify clouds textures nor models, what you get in the default you get in REX Weather Force. The baro is something REX is looking.

 

That simply isnt true. I will make screenshots that prove you are wrong. 


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4 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

Its been a long time since I was so dissapointed in a product as with rex weather force. It it doesnt even do what I exlusively bought it for: correct baro settings and wind. For my departure the insim qnh was incorrectly 1013. The clouds were flat and uninspired. To use this app you give up one of the biggest gains in modern simulation namely cloud depiction in default msfs. 

I am not surpised by this sorry to say that  I mamy statement very clear how well REX does his marketing and how bas the testing. Look at the other plattform and how many products do work with the latest updates. And P3D is updating much lesser compared to MSFS.

MSFS just needs to fix the "issues" but I really don´t see why they  can´t. They will and sure they will do it quick!

All the needed data is there and probably also in the sim. It will be a question for finetuning and some corrections and there we are: We ALL have the same weather in data and visuals all over the planet needed for realism, sharing cockpits, group flights, etc. Because that would be the strength!

You WILL loose this by using addons! 

Same goes for live traffic! 

Give it some time. Spending money is not that hard.......but saving and earning will/is much harder!

Marcus 

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3 minutes ago, FrankR409 said:

he single concern I have, is that Asobo can fairly easily close the door that REX has used to provide this service and then what?

If Rex is doing this the way I think they are, there would be no way for Asobo to prevent it. Active Sky uses a similar technique to directly control the wind, temperature and pressure at the aircraft’s current position in FSX/P3D.


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4 minutes ago, fs1 said:

Weather Force DOES NOT modify clouds textures nor models, what you get in the default you get in REX Weather Force. The baro is something REX is looking.

 

But IF the data does not pick up correct formations, it will look awful instead of awsome.......you all know the GRID Weather patterns within P3D or! Only with REX and not with HiFi....why is that? 

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3 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

But IF the data does not pick up correct formations, it will look awful instead of awsome.......you all know the GRID Weather patterns within P3D or! Only with REX and not with HiFi....why is that? 

Marcus

I want to see the case this is happening in MSFS. If you can post an image will help.

Thanks

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16 minutes ago, Andreas Stangenes said:

That simply isnt true. I will make screenshots that prove you are wrong. 

Flat clouds! as in P3D even v 4.5 and v5 without EA have Flat clouds, horrible, like the reports of big squares of weather, again a P3D problem, could you post some shots as I have never seen flat clouds or any grids in MSFS, sorry to hear you now have them.😞 the flat clouds I mean, others have the square patterns sadly and posted shots, dear me what a step backwards.

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