3 hours ago, GoranM said:

Is someone paying you to say the same stuff over...and over...and over...and over again?

Well because of the facts, the developers are not fixing stuff, over and over and over again....

6 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Well because of the facts, the developers are not fixing stuff, over and over and over again....

Oh, I see.  

Ok, it makes sense.  You keep repeating yourself, constantly, thinking your opinion, and yours alone, is the one we all will heed, and your voice will impact the entire flight sim community.

Or maybe you just like to complain.

8 hours ago, Greazer said:

Well because of the facts, the developers are not fixing stuff, over and over and over again....

If you actually want them fixed, share the XPDs you were assigned and we can help recreate them.

The last one I got was XPD-10336, which was fixed in Beta 7 of 11.40.

The last one I fixed was #76 and actually when someone else reported it before I even read the issue.

I suspect the reason your problems are not getting fixed is possibly related to relying on telepathy, or the .org way of having someone else read your log file, both of which are pretty terrible ways of getting issues fixed.

Edited November 12, 20205 yr by mSparks

15 hours ago, GoranM said:

Is someone paying you to say the same stuff over...and over...and over...and over again?

Why are you making such a big deal Goran, I mean really, let the guy express his thoughts. Does it bother you that much to the point that you have to waist time responding with a senseless comment?

1 hour ago, CarlosF said:

Why are you making such a big deal Goran, I mean really, let the guy express his thoughts. Does it bother you that much to the point that you have to waist time responding with a senseless comment?

My take on it, I don't have a problem with the guy expressing his thoughts as long as he's talking about his own experience with the sim. If he would post some specifics about his settings and hardware, the community here would be glad to help him try to fix whatever the problems are.

That's not what he does though. He constantly makes blanket statements about the horrible state of X-Plane, as if everyone else is experiencing it. That's simply not the case. It's misinformation at best, and trolling to promote a different sim at worst. Newbies looking for information about XP here on Avsim shouldn't be given false information. 

 

 

3 hours ago, CarlosF said:

Why are you making such a big deal Goran, I mean really, let the guy express his thoughts. Does it bother you that much to the point that you have to waist time responding with a senseless comment?

What a bit like His. Allhe does is moan.

On 11/11/2020 at 6:12 PM, Janov said:

I am fairly certain there will be a 11.51 for some lingering stuff, like the last few remaining Device Loss errors. And yeah, airports, too.

It might be subjective perception, but 11.41 hit the server fairly shortly after 11.40, like two weeks apart or so. It's been like what, two months since 11.50 now...? Seems a bit long for a "0.01" type release.

 

23 hours ago, Janov said:

More people will have gotten bored of MSFS and the novelty of photorealistic graphics will have worn of.

Does that mean the idiots with all their their "(future releases of) MSFS will be better" blabber will return to the XP community...? 😬

 

22 hours ago, jcomm said:

Guys, you really don't guess the joy I'm getting from Condorsoaring 2 and IL2 Battle of Stalingrad while I wait, months, maybe years, for MFS to become something really worth the investment, and for Austin to make me finally like everything about XP...

See you in three centuries then. 😉

 

16 hours ago, Paraffin said:

I have the opposite view, that the time to strike with an XP12 paid beta is this holiday season. That is, assuming there's enough new content to be enticing like better weather, and maybe procedural seasons which MSFS will have a very difficult time matching with its scenery approach. 

That's unlikely considering the major stepping stone that 11.50 was. Anything rendering related like clouds and shaders won't code themselves in these few short months. Maybe next spring or so.

1 hour ago, Bjoern said:

Seems a bit long for a "0.01" type release.

very long...

I hope they are testing and optimising, maybe even putting the groundwork into an initial release of 12.

But they have been really quiet ever since they pulled the last Q&A which is actually worrying. I wouldn't describe it as a happy Q&A, and the one before that also had a mild air of panic..

Sept 11th the last time JustSid posted on the org which is the only glipse we were really getting of what was going in inside the temple of greatness... 

Its also been an uncomfortably long time (2 months) since Austin put anything out, which considering I've been used to seeing him in a video every couple of weeks for the last few years makes me a little uncomfortable. 

Unusual times is one thing, but it seems we have truly entered a new era of the way they behave and communicate.....

Well you guys talk too much...:D

https://developer.x-plane.com/2020/11/stuff-we-are-working-on/

compute shaders so it'll probably be possible to easily implement shader based seasons, grass and many things we can imagine.

Multi-threading news are pure joy as well, let my next RTX 3000+ be the bottleneck, 90 fps VR is on the way😍

Might really help airliner developers to push it even more systems-wise as cpu bottlenecks for the visual parts would be kinda rare assuming you don't have a decade+ old cpu.

Edited November 13, 20205 yr by akita

lolz, beat me to it. that wasnt there 3 hours ago...

Edited November 13, 20205 yr by mSparks

On 11/11/2020 at 7:23 PM, GoranM said:

Oh, I see.  

Ok, it makes sense.  You keep repeating yourself, constantly, thinking your opinion, and yours alone, is the one we all will heed, and your voice will impact the entire flight sim community.

Or maybe you just like to complain.

He is trolling like usual, and you keep feeding him. Just saying.

2 hours ago, strider1 said:

He is trolling like usual, and you keep feeding him. Just saying.

You got it wrong, we bite he fishes thats why its called trolling just like the boat, we need to stop biting, baits off anyway.

On 11/11/2020 at 10:48 AM, Greazer said:

XP 12 is years away.  XP 11.50 Vulkan bugs are severe and need patching.  Not least of all terrible stuttering changing views or panning and random CTD's at any time.  No way I am paying for a whole new product to fix 11.50 bugs.   Would never happen.  And no, by this time,  2d clouds, cardboard trees, and bland scenery are not acceptable.

Exactly...I think the best they can do is a beta by the end of next year with some missing features that they promise add later..

On 11/11/2020 at 2:56 PM, Janov said:

It would surprise me if there wasn´t - then again, the more time between the release of MSFS and the announcement of a new XP version, the better. More people will have gotten bored of MSFS and the novelty of photorealistic graphics will have worn of.

Cheers, Jan

 

The more time it takes...gives the competition more time to enhance and improve to further set them away from XP. 

 

On 11/11/2020 at 9:53 PM, Paraffin said:

I have the opposite view, that the time to strike with an XP12 paid beta is this holiday season. That is, assuming there's enough new content to be enticing like better weather, and maybe procedural seasons which MSFS will have a very difficult time matching with its scenery approach. 

Right now MSFS is in this weird state where the ortho terrain and photogrammetry objects are the big selling point. But the SDK isn't in good enough shape for 3rd party planes to expand beyond just light GA piston stuff, and the turboprop modeling still stinks. It might be a year before we see good vintage radial engine planes, mil jets, and rotorcraft in MSFS the way things are going. A PMDG-level airliner might be even further out.

The time to strike is now, because XP12 has a huge fleet of aircraft to fly that just isn't available in MSFS. Assuming again, that there is enough meat on the bones to make it an attractive purchase.

 

The time to strike would have been years ago. 

 

On 11/12/2020 at 11:44 AM, Paraffin said:

My take on it, I don't have a problem with the guy expressing his thoughts as long as he's talking about his own experience with the sim. If he would post some specifics about his settings and hardware, the community here would be glad to help him try to fix whatever the problems are.

That's not what he does though. He constantly makes blanket statements about the horrible state of X-Plane, as if everyone else is experiencing it. That's simply not the case. It's misinformation at best, and trolling to promote a different sim at worst. Newbies looking for information about XP here on Avsim shouldn't be given false information. 

 

 

My take is that you do have a problem with the guy expressing himself. So do others on this forum who don't like anything said against XP, but then feel free to "dog out" the competition at will. Hypocrisy is alive and well here.

Newbies (particularly those who have not yet purchased XP and its life support system of addons) looking for information on X-plane should be made aware of the longstanding issues (like stuttering) that Vulkan has not completely addressed. That is the information that a newbie needs before investing in a sim that has not improved much over the years.

 

2 hours ago, FlyBaby said:

My take is that you do have a problem with the guy expressing himself.

 

Well, DUH!!!

 It's an X-Plane forum for X-Plane enthusiasts.  Didn't you read the section you were in before posting??

 

I am always for freedom of speech and expressing yourself - but it has limits where statements are just plain wrong, damaging or aimed at illiciting a negative response.

There are many things that could be improved in X-Plane, no one is denying that. But I think blanket and exaggerated statements never sit well, it is the same in forums of other flight simulators.

We are always ready to discuss X-Plane´s shortcomings and what Laminar should focus on or why they haven´t advanced feature "X" in the recent years.

But the stuff that Greazer (and you) post is not aimed at discussion, it is just unfounded slander either aimed at shedding a bad light at X-Plane, trolling to upset supporters of an "enemy" flight simulator or tantrum like my kids throw them when looking for their favourite sweater in the morning "You guys NEVER do laundry, I put this in TWO YEARS ago and it still isn´t done"... 😂

I think Greazer is just a guy that is grumpy in general, other folks coming here to start a fight about X-Plane vs MSFS are probably just driven by the anguish that waning public interest, a development team that is obviously in way over its head, promised features that never shipped and botched patch after botched patch for the flightsimulator they support brings with it (how is that for some blanket statements? 😁)

Cheers, Jan