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Problems with updated JF Arrow

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Doesn't look like you can turn the icing effect for air speed off in Msfs 2020 for the Arrow now. You can get the windscreen to melt, but when icing starts on the airframe, your airspeed starts dropping like a rock. Doesn't take long before you hit a stall situation. 

 

Finally stalled. I had to change weather and up temperature about 20 degrees to keep from crashing. You can't stop airframe icing from affecting the flight model in the Arrow. 

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The aerodynamic impact was always there, just with no visuals.  The only difference now is that you get some visual indication of what is going on.

AMD 3950X | 64GB RAM | AMD 5700XT | CH Fighterstick / Pro Throttle / Pro Pedals

turns out I failed to exercise the demons from the code.  Uninstall and reinstall appears to have done that.  She's a handful on takeoff.  Great fun with this one.

Does anyone else find the ground friction non-existent? With full prop and 1400 rpm, just enough to not foul the plugs (hopefully), it sets off like a rocket. And if you cut the throttle completely it coasts forever.

Cristi Neagu

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20 minutes ago, Cristi_Neagu said:

Does anyone else find the ground friction non-existent? With full prop and 1400 rpm, just enough to not foul the plugs (hopefully), it sets off like a rocket. And if you cut the throttle completely it coasts forever.

If you set the prop at 1400 rpm you will be taxing at a pretty quick rate wearing out brakes trying to keep your speed under control. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

If you set the prop at 1400 rpm you will be taxing at a pretty quick rate wearing out brakes trying to keep your speed under control. 

Yes, but is that normal? Does it happen with the real aircraft too?

Cristi Neagu

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40 minutes ago, Cristi_Neagu said:

Yes, but is that normal? Does it happen with the real aircraft too?

Does for me. 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Does for me. 

Good to know, thanks. But how do you manage speed whilst not fowling the plugs? Is 1400rpm too high? Do you ride the brakes?

Cristi Neagu

4 minutes ago, Cristi_Neagu said:

Good to know, thanks. But how do you manage speed whilst not fowling the plugs? Is 1400rpm too high? Do you ride the brakes?

Never flown one but I assume you lean during taxi.   Just do not forget full rich during runups and with takeoff power.

Edited by Glenn Fitzpatrick

I never look at rpm when I taxi IRL. I add juice with short burst then retard throttle to 1000rpm and let airplane roll. I can guesstimate  rpm during taxi just from sound of engine . I also can easily spot a difference if engine idling or hanging around 800-1000rpm. So if someone asked how much RPM takes to move airplane I can’t even answer lol All I can say it is definitely less than 1800-2000rpm which we typically use for run up 

Worst thing pilot can do during taxi are ride brakes or steer with a yoke LOL

In MSFS GA airplanes roll way faster than IRL. In contrast, I like how bringing  yoke aft ease turns - it acts in par with RL

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Of forgot to mention we always lean mixture when I taxi IRL 🙂

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6 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Of forgot to mention we always lean mixture when I taxi IRL 🙂

Awesome! Thanks!

Cristi Neagu

22 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Worst thing pilot can do during taxi are ride brakes or steer with a yoke LOL

 

Way back when, if I touched the yoke while taxiing my instructor would slap my hand.  😁

Bill

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12 minutes ago, Bill Griffith said:

Way back when, if I touched the yoke while taxiing my instructor would slap my hand.  😁

Bill

We can't do it anymore LOL

 

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My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

 

17 minutes ago, Bill Griffith said:

Way back when, if I touched the yoke while taxiing my instructor would slap my hand.  😁

Bill

Must have made taxi with a high crosswind or tail wind rather interesting

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