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How ice affects aircraft.

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Another great video of how ice affects aircraft and how it's simulated inside X-Plane.

I'm glad X-Plane is developed by a "buffoon" (sic) like him.

 

"Society has become so fake that the truth actually bothers people".

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27 minutes ago, Murmur said:

I'm glad X-Plane is developed by a "buffoon" (sic) like him.

This will save lives rather than take them.

Then some people wonder why other people who literally feel like they owe him their lives are something of his fans.

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Excellent! Thanks for sharing. It's encouraging to learn the next generation of X-Plane is in the works. 

Excellent link Rob !  THX for sharing 👍

BTW: link to the full course here:

In-Flight Icing: Course Overview and Main Menu (nasa.gov) 

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I would like to see the video series on  wind modeling improvements in XP12. It always seems overlooked. It is not at all accurate right now. Real flight is not in a wind tunnel. It is easily the biggest issue with flight modeling, often way over exaggerated or none at all. It's pretty embarrassing actually, after this many years of updates.

Greazer.

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1 hour ago, Greazer said:

I would like to see the video series on  wind modeling improvements in XP12. It always seems overlooked. It is not at all accurate right now. Real flight is not in a wind tunnel. It is easily the biggest issue with flight modeling, often way over exaggerated or none at all. It's pretty embarrassing actually, after this many years of updates.

Greazer.

Apart from the fact that real world aircraft designs are tested in a wind tunnel, maybe you should start your own thread about wind modelling, and you might get an answer instead of hijacking someone else's thread.  Personally, I'd be more than happy to reply.  Links are ready and waiting.  Not at all accurate?  Sorry, but I have to laugh extremely loudly.

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1 hour ago, Greazer said:

I would like to see the video series on  wind modeling improvements in XP12. It always seems overlooked. It is not at all accurate right now. Real flight is not in a wind tunnel. It is easily the biggest issue with flight modeling, often way over exaggerated or none at all. It's pretty embarrassing actually, after this many years of updates.

Greazer.

lol.........

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1 hour ago, Greazer said:

I would like to see the video series on  wind modeling improvements in XP12. It always seems overlooked. It is not at all accurate right now. Real flight is not in a wind tunnel. It is easily the biggest issue with flight modeling, often way over exaggerated or none at all. It's pretty embarrassing actually, after this many years of updates.

Greazer.

You mean like the bit where hes driving car with a fuselage on a stick to see wind effects, I guess you missed that one, Ever thought of taking up programming so others could whine about your rotten work all day. Must admit my life seems so much brighter after reading your comments.

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Now now, folks.  He has complaints.  And I'm more than happy to address his complaints with actual links that will relieve his concerns  (not likely).  And even if he doesn't directly say it, any person with half a brain knows what the agenda is.  So, Greazer...just say the word, and I'll be more than happy to provide you with plenty of reading material to keep you occupied.  It's obvious you have a serious passion for flight and flight simming, and I'm here to ensure your passion is as fulfilled as I can help to make it.  

🙂

Sorry, but wind effects in XP is in great need of improvement. If you were a real simmer and not a forum fanboi you would know. People have coded LUA scripts to tame the wind, but with limited success.  And why should we have to resort to LUA hacks. Why can't it be fixed by LR? I always get targeted for reporting legitimate issues. I got called out a lot about comments on ground handling, which was terrible in 11.0. But then LR released a patch which improved it (and the fanboi's went silent). 

Greazer.

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20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Sorry, but wind effects in XP is in great need of improvement.

Perhaps if you could provide feedback on what you THINK needs improvement, I'll be more than happy to forward it to LR.

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

If you were a real simmer and not a forum fanboi you would know.

I'm actually a real pilot, and I hold a PPL.  

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

People have coded LUA scripts to tame the wind, but with limited success. 

So you think 3rd party programmers know what the wind needs to be like?  Do they have access to a wind tunnel?  Do you have information on their environmental engineering background?  Sorry, but I'll take the word of an actual engineer over a 3rd party programmer when it comes to wind effects.

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

And why should we have to resort to LUA hacks.

You don't HAVE to do anything.  I've had X-Plane for over 12 years, and I've never resorted to hacks that address the wind.

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Why can't it be fixed by LR?

Watch the video and read the literature I posted here.

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

I always get targeted for reporting legitimate issues.

Legitimate according to who?  Coral beneath the waves?  Rodents running through the cities?  Are those the legitimate issues you're referring to?

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

I got called out a lot about comments on ground handling, which was terrible in 11.0. But then LR released a patch which improved it (and the fanboi's went silent). 

Sorry, but I never saw anything from you about ground handling.  But if you pointed out ground effects, you were in the majority, because it was an issue I brought up with Laminar before 11 was even released.

Try not to use the term "fanboi".  We're X-Plane enthusiasts.  If you ask questions about what's lacking in X-Plane, and all of X-Planes (what you perceive as) faults, and you are provided literature to read, then go and read it.  

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5 minutes ago, GoranM said:

Sorry, but I never saw anything from you about ground handling.  But you were in the majority, because it was an issue I brought up with Laminar before 11 was even released.

On another forum (which you frequent) I posted a message in October 2018 about the ground handling issues under name "Greaser" - and the issue was soon after patched by LR in 11.30.  Before that GH was really bad, but to their credit, the patch made it a whole lot better.

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Just now, Greazer said:

On another forum (which you frequent) I posted a message in October 2018 about the ground handling issues under name "Greaser" - and the issue was soon after patched by LR in 11.30.  Before that GH was really bad, but to their credit, the patch made it a whole lot better.

Ok, great.  But like I said, I never saw anything about it.  And I frequent a lot of forums.

Also, like I said, the ground handling was off.  And it was acknowledged and fixed by LR.  Water physics are also off.  LR also acknowledge this.  But there is a priority, and water takeoffs and landings just aren't at the top of that list.  

Now, back to your wind problems, which I think are exaggerated (the problems...not the wind), please go and read what I posted.  Those links are just the tip of the iceberg.  

I'm not here to argue, only to report legitimate issues. I reported about ground handling, now I make a comment about wind effects. I've seen a bunch of youtube videos explaining how detailed and mathematically exact the flight modeling in XP is. Only problem there is never any mention about wind, yet it effects every aspect of flight.

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4 minutes ago, Greazer said:

I'm not here to argue, only to report legitimate issues. I reported about ground handling, now I make a comment about wind effects. I've seen a bunch of youtube videos explaining how detailed and mathematically exact the flight modeling in XP is. Only problem there is never any mention about wind, yet it effects every aspect of flight.

Who's arguing?  You asked about wind effects.  I posted links to it that do more than enough to dispel your "legitimate" issues on it.  Along with a video.  All on wind effects.  If you don't want to watch the video or read the pages about it, then I'll assume you're only here to argue.  It's all on you now.

I'm only here to help provide information.

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