24 minutes ago, CarlosF said:

@Dominique_K

I'm tempted to purchase the DC-6, but got a question.

You have a very similar pc setup compared to mine, how's performance, is your rig able to maintain at least 30fms?

I get very slowly into it for various reasons. Summertime.  Also I like taking my time to learn a complex aircraft like that . I am in no hurry.  

So far, so good but I did only a first short flight. It was out of Lanzarote over the sea with a partially cloudy Live Weather. Pretty smooth. 

 

1 hour ago, Matchstick said:

Sounds like it may be the RPM bit I'm missing ?

Plane would be no fun if there was no nuance in flying it that had to be learn and refined 🙂

I don't remember him ever messing with the RPM in the video. He just used throttle, once he disengaged the AFE. 

 

 

Edited June 22, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

Does anyone know what it means when the oil temperature stress dot on the EFB turns yellow? And how to prevent it. Every flight now these become yellow for all engines but on the temp gauges everything is well in the green?

Flew some 43 nostalgic holyday seekers today from Malta to the Etna for sightseeing. What an experience and fun this was. Circled around and over it like 5 times in very close proximity. Remarkable thing we noticed, there's a lot of small craters in the area with lots of houses around and between them. Don't know if I would want to live there 🙂

Edited June 22, 20214 yr by Gerwil

In the context of how the sim has been viewed in some circles, that's a good thing

2 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I don't remember him ever messing with the RPM in the video. He just used throttle, once he disengaged the AFE. 

That's why I missed it... In the video he started at about 2,100 RPM, which to my (limited) experience is a setting none of the  AFE procedures uses... 

At around 3:30 he explains the aircraft engine configuration, and at 4:18 "it leaves the props at the low RPM setting...", and when you look closely, they're at 1-2 ticks above the 2,000 RPM mark

 

21 minutes ago, pstrub said:

That's why I missed it... In the video he started at about 2,100 RPM, which to my (limited) experience is a setting none of the  AFE procedures uses... 

At around 3:30 he explains the aircraft engine configuration, and at 4:18 "it leaves the props at the low RPM setting...", and when you look closely, they're at 1-2 ticks above the 2,000 RPM mark

 

Isn't 2200 RPM the cruise setting set by the AFE.? He mentioned that the initial descent is started with cruise power and the AFE is controlling that. 

Edited June 22, 20214 yr by Bobsk8

23 hours ago, wim123 said:

yes, hehe i just bought  a new printer to printout the manuals, i def prefer paper here, instead of alt tabbing.

you could have purchased a second monitor to play the video content with while playing msfs and follow along.  Though if you needed a new printer anyways.....

Just got it. Loaded it up in the sim and was almost immediately overwhelmed by it.. Man, when am I going to have the time to learn this.. 

17 minutes ago, Swe_Richard said:

Just got it. Loaded it up in the sim and was almost immediately overwhelmed by it.. Man, when am I going to have the time to learn this.. 

I know ! Thats why I initiated this thread. The PMDG tutorials are short (about 15 minutes each) and make the discovery of this complex aircraft a lot easier on the neurons (and patience). Take a little bite at a time. How the machine ticks comes quickly, you'll see

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

Isn't 2200 RPM the cruise setting set by the AFE.? He mentioned that the initial descent is started with cruise power and the AFE is controlling that. 

I don't think it is, but I'm not so sure... anyway, in the video he starts out with around 2100 RPM, and I never got that when descending as explained in the videos: first descend with cruise setting, then at some point start the Descent AFE. Maybe I missed something, but I'm sure that on several occasions my DC6 had higher RPMs when getting to 3000 ft.

I'm not sure how he got to the 2100 RPM in the video, it was there right from the beginning when he's still flying with descent AFE. Anyway, if for some reason your RPMs are higher when trying to slow down, it helps to lower them and set the throttle to 90 BMEP.

 

1 hour ago, pstrub said:

I don't think it is, but I'm not so sure... anyway, in the video he starts out with around 2100 RPM, and I never got that when descending as explained in the videos: first descend with cruise setting, then at some point start the Descent AFE. Maybe I missed something, but I'm sure that on several occasions my DC6 had higher RPMs when getting to 3000 ft.

I'm not sure how he got to the 2100 RPM in the video, it was there right from the beginning when he's still flying with descent AFE. Anyway, if for some reason your RPMs are higher when trying to slow down, it helps to lower them and set the throttle to 90 BMEP.

 

I am cruising right now and reading 2200 RPM .I guess you didn't watch the videos I posted. 

28 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

I am cruising right now and reading 2200 RPM .I guess you didn't watch the videos I posted. 

I'm not sure what you're talking about... I thought the point was the slowing for the approach? I checked again, and right at the beginning of the video he's at 2050 RPM. You're right though that during cruise he's at 2200, maybe a bit higher at around 2250. When I descend using the AFE as indicated in the videos, my RPMs don't go down to 2050 and the DC-6 doesn't slow down in level flight. That's all I'm saying. 

And yes, I watched the videos, I did so a while ago already...

I don't know why my RPMs didn't go down the last time I did my descent. But using the AFE in descent mode did NOT lower the RPMs enough for me the last time I tried.

Edited June 22, 20214 yr by pstrub

7 minutes ago, pstrub said:

I'm not sure what you're talking about... I thought the point was the slowing for the approach? I checked again, and right at the beginning of the video he's at 2050 RPM. You're right though that during cruise he's at 2200, maybe a bit higher at around 2250. When I descend using the AFE as indicated in the videos, my RPMs don't go down to 2050 and the DC-6 doesn't slow down in level flight. That's all I'm saying. 

And yes, I watched the videos, I did so a while ago already...

I don't know why my RPMs didn't go down the last time I did my descent. But using the AFE in descent mode did NOT lower the RPMs enough for me the last time I tried.

If you recall, he said don't touch the rpms. He even explained that increasing the RPMs reduces BMEP which is the same as reducing the throttle. 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

If you recall, he said don't touch the rpms. He even explained that increasing the RPMs reduces BMEP which is the same as reducing the throttle. 

Well yes, but I don't know what I did wrong. Using the suggested sequence of AFE procedures, I ended up with the RPMs too high and the DC-6 didn't slow down sufficiently. Then I decided to adjust the RPMs manually to the value Rob's showing in the beginning of the "slowing for approach" video, and it worked. 

Sorry, I won't be able to test again today. Just tried to help because others seemed to have issues slowing her down too. My recommendation just is: double-check your RPM and BMEP to match what  Rob shows in the video about slowing down, and adjust if necessary. That's did the trick for me. I'll try again tomorrow to see if I missed anything else.

 

6 minutes ago, pstrub said:

Well yes, but I don't know what I did wrong. Using the suggested sequence of AFE procedures, I ended up with the RPMs too high and the DC-6 didn't slow down sufficiently. Then I decided to adjust the RPMs manually to the value Rob's showing in the beginning of the "slowing for approach" video, and it worked. 

Sorry, I won't be able to test again today. Just tried to help because others seemed to have issues slowing her down too. My recommendation just is: double-check your RPM and BMEP to match what  Rob shows in the video about slowing down, and adjust if necessary. That's did the trick for me. I'll try again tomorrow to see if I missed anything else.

 

You should never have to touch RPMs, only throttle. I am on approach now, descended at cruise power, 1,000 fpm, until 10,000 feet. Then I hit descent on AFE, still kept descent at 1,000 fpm, and now D6C is slowing down to around 175, where I can extend flaps. Then disconnect AFE, and keep power around 90 BMEP, and use flaps to slow down to 145. 

Edited June 22, 20214 yr by Bobsk8