July 4, 20214 yr Moderator Regrettably I’m ceasing use of MSI Afterburner and RTSS. Whilst RTSS caused a DXGI crash in P3Dv5.1 when switching vehicles with the display showing I could work around that when required. But with v5.2HF1 it causes P3D to crash with any access to the menu. I can’t live with that I’m afraid. I’m now using Resource Monitor customised for my needs. It doesn’t include any GPU info sadly. Is this my best alternative or do others exist which don’t cause issues with P3D? Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 4, 20214 yr Commercial Member I use NV Inspector for my basic GPU diagnostics. Cheers! Luke Kolin I make simFDR, the most advanced flight data recorder for FSX, Prepar3D and X-Plane.
July 4, 20214 yr Author Moderator 30 minutes ago, newtie said: 5.1 sans HF is always an option. Not for this user I’m afraid. 18 minutes ago, Luke said: I use NV Inspector for my basic GPU diagnostics. Cheers! Ideally I’d like something that can monitor CPU and GPU. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 4, 20214 yr Which parameters do you prefer to read real-time? I use GPU-Z in combo with HWinfo64. But those just read, gpu-z is more graphical, HWinfo has great detail of both cpu and gpu. They don't allow any tuning. I have an EVGA gpu so I use precisionX1 to alter voltage, power, fan curve etc... Edited July 4, 20214 yr by Papacoach Win11 / CPU: 10980K at 5.0GHz / Memory: 32Gb at 3600 MHz / GPU: RTX 3090 / Display: Benq x3000i pj on Silver Ticket 110" screen
July 4, 20214 yr Interesting, I dont seem to have any such ptoblems? Kevin Firth - AMD 9800X3D; Asus Prime X670E; 64Gb Cas30 6000 DDR5; RTX5090; AutoFPS
July 4, 20214 yr Author Moderator 1 hour ago, Papacoach said: Which parameters do you prefer to read real-time? I use GPU-Z in combo with HWinfo64. But those just read, gpu-z is more graphical, HWinfo has great detail of both cpu and gpu. They don't allow any tuning. I have an EVGA gpu so I use precisionX1 to alter voltage, power, fan curve etc... GPU VRAM and Temp CPU Temp Cores 0 2 4 6 8 and 10 RAM FPS. HWInfo sounds suitable. Read-only is fine. I suspect it’s the interaction between RTSS display and P3D menu system and has become worse following the latest hot fix. 55 minutes ago, kevinfirth said: Interesting, I dont seem to have any such ptoblems? I uninstalled both Afterburner and RTSS removing all traces including personal settings. Then reinstalled. The problem occurred almost as soon as I used the P3D menu system. The RTSS author is not willing to purchase P3D to test his product and LM haven’t responded to my post explaining the problem. I can only look elsewhere. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 4, 20214 yr 35 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: GPU VRAM and Temp CPU Temp Cores 0 2 4 6 8 and 10 RAM FPS. HWInfo sounds suitable. Read-only is fine. I suspect it’s the interaction between RTSS display and P3D menu system and has become worse following the latest hot fix. HWinfo also has a separate "gadget" you can download that some seem to like. I've not used it. It can be setup to display only the sensor data you want. HWinfo is great, although it presents an overwhelming amount of data when you may just be interested in a few elements. Edited July 4, 20214 yr by Papacoach Win11 / CPU: 10980K at 5.0GHz / Memory: 32Gb at 3600 MHz / GPU: RTX 3090 / Display: Benq x3000i pj on Silver Ticket 110" screen
July 4, 20214 yr Author Moderator 5 minutes ago, Papacoach said: HWinfo also has a separate "gadget" you can download that some seem to like. I've not used it. It can be setup to display only the sensor data you want. HWinfo is great, although it presents an overwhelming amount of data when you may just be interested in a few elements. I’ll investigate, thanks. Yes, on the few occasions I’ve used it that was my impression too. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 5, 20214 yr I use GPU Tweek II for both clocking the GFX card and monitoring the usage. Task manager does the CPU use monitoring as I don't need to monitor CPU temps etc. because I've already stress tested the system and it takes more than P3D running at max to overload the CPU. The GPU on the other hand is easily maxed out by P3D. This short vid shows GPU Tweek II, I normally have it on the RH monitor along with ASN, Task Manager, LRM and any other program I happen to have open. LH Monitor is for Little Nav Map and center is for P3D. In the vid the frame counter in bottom RHS is provided by ReShade. Ryzen 5800X clocked to 4.7 Ghz (SMT off), 32 GB ram, Samsung 1 x 1 TB NVMe 970, 2 x 1 TB SSD 850 Pro raided, Asus Tuf 3080Ti P3D 4.5.14, Orbx Global, Vector and more, lotsa planes too. Catch my vids on Oz Sim Pilot, catch my screen pics @ Screenshots and Prepar3D
July 5, 20214 yr Author Moderator @Rogen, thanks for your post. I was looking for a combined CPU/GPU utility really. I also find with EA turned off my GPU rarely goes above 40% with one noteable exception. The Xtreme Prototypes Lear 25 taxi, strobe and landing lights really hammer the GPU so to prevent that I don't use them. Daytime flying doesn't require them for visibilty. But now that HF1 for v5.2 has come out things seem much improved and I'm finding that my AF setting is working well. Seeing the CPU core usage was convenient with RTSS but I can access that easily via Task Manager. It's a pity RTSS is no longer usable for me but once I can break the habit of looking at stats I suspect not having it won't be a problem. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 6, 20214 yr HWininfo Ray ! ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS 2TB 980 Pro , MSFS 2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack) Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons
July 6, 20214 yr Author Moderator 16 minutes ago, sonny147 said: HWininfo Ray ! Thanks sonny, I’ll bear it in mind. I’m trying to wean myself off being obsessed with analysing the performance of P3D. All seems well at the moment but should there be another hotfix this might come in handy. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
July 6, 20214 yr It gets you like that Ray , we are all searching for the perfect setup and performance sometimes you have got step back and reset , I should have stuck to golf ! ROG Crossair Hero X670e , 9900X, TUF 4090 , X4 NVME's. OS 2TB 980 Pro , MSFS 2TB WD Black , Kington Fury 64GB ram ( 6000) Corsair RM1000 PSU, Artic Freezer iii 360 AIO . Phanteks P600s Case ,TCL QM8B 50" 120 Hz TV,second 24 inch screen for charts you tube etc, and 11" touch screen for the EFB. Warthog Stick and TCA Captains throttle ( full pack) Velocity 1 Rudder Pedals , extreme3D for the Tiller,Streamdeck XL x2 / Streamdeck +/Streamdeck mini because i like pressing buttons
July 6, 20214 yr On 7/4/2021 at 8:13 AM, Ray Proudfoot said: Ideally I’d like something that can monitor CPU and GPU. NZXT's CAM software will do that, and without using an overlay like MSI Afterburner does, which causes problems for a lot of DX12 software. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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