Please respond only to which cohort you belong in, HDR users or SDR users.  On a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the most happy with image quality, 1 the least, choose a score which most approximates your opinion regarding image quality post SU5 1.18.15.1 hotfix.  FOCUS ON coloration & lighting, versus LOD and sharpness if you will.

This is probably an impossible subject to set up a poll for, but what the hey it might be interesting and stimulate more discussion, and Lord knows we seem to love discussion around here...!

Thanks

 

Edited August 9, 20214 yr by Noel

Tricky to respond as the i'd give lighting and coloration completely different scores.

(SDR)

Lighting is great. I'd give it a 9

Coloration is all over the place, as it always has been.  Completely inconsistent.  6 

Cant score them as one really as it wouldn't show my satisfaction with one aspect and dissatisfaction with the other. 

How about an average of the two? so maybe 6 or 7?  I know it's a goofy poll but right now I can't tell much of anything and I thought i tmight help!

Can't respond to the poll because I've never seen how it looks with HDR. Voting on the SDR part only doesn't work.

That being said, SDR looks washed out, overexposed, grainy and generally much worse than before SU5.

Edited August 9, 20214 yr by Republic3D

Not absolving Asobo,  but........

I wonder how many use HDMI and have misconfigured their black levels.  (full vs limited range output selected on the video card,   and high vs low black levels selected on the display)

Ideally,  the card and display would both be set to full range (0 - 255),    rather than limited range (16-235).

Mismatching can cause the display to crush blacks,  and blow out mids and whites. 

 

Edited August 9, 20214 yr by Waldo Pepper

The poll doesn't make much sense (please take no offence) because there is a huge variability of HDR capabilities.

HDR 400 with 8 local dimming zones is very different from HDR 1000 with 1152 zones. Also, HDR works well on console / TV while it's kind of broken in Windows.

I have an HDR 600 capable monitor with 8 dimming zones and colors have always been dull in HDR with any game and any setting I managed to try. I just prefer not to use it.

On the other hand an HDR 1000 OLED TV would be awesome.

24 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

Can't respond to the poll because I've never seen how it looks with HDR. Voting on the SDR part only doesn't work.

That being said, SDR looks washed out, overexposed, grainy and generally much worse than before SU5.

Sure it works--just select a number for your impression of how SDR looks for you.  I use SDR, and I gave it a 6 out of 10.

1 minute ago, Noel said:

Sure it works--just select a number for your impression of how SDR looks for you.  I use SDR, and I gave it a 6 out of 10.

I did, but it just says "This field is required." on the other options I can't say anything about.

7 minutes ago, Republic3D said:

I did, but it just says "This field is required." on the other options I can't say anything about.

OK now you can thanks!

2 minutes ago, Noel said:

OK now you can thanks!

Thank you, works perfectly! 

12 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

The poll doesn't make much sense (please take no offence) because there is a huge variability of HDR capabilities.

HDR 400 with 8 local dimming zones is very different from HDR 1000 with 1152 zones. Also, HDR works well on console / TV while it's kind of broken in Windows.

I have an HDR 600 capable monitor with 8 dimming zones and colors have always been dull in HDR with any game and any setting I managed to try. I just prefer not to use it.

On the other hand an HDR 1000 OLED TV would be awesome.

No offense taken it's just a crude subjective impression that's all.  After this perhaps we can't bring in a new poll off from suggestions like yours here.

19 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

The poll doesn't make much sense (please take no offence) because there is a huge variability of HDR capabilities.

HDR 400 with 8 local dimming zones is very different from HDR 1000 with 1152 zones. Also, HDR works well on console / TV while it's kind of broken in Windows.

I have an HDR 600 capable monitor with 8 dimming zones and colors have always been dull in HDR with any game and any setting I managed to try. I just prefer not to use it.

On the other hand an HDR 1000 OLED TV would be awesome.

What games? Yes there is a difference between HDR 400 and HDR 1000, but HDR 400 will still look much better than just SDR. 

However if a game look dull it might be due to it not running in an HDR pipeline with a proper tone mapper, HDR monitor mostly indicates capability but can't make non HDR ready games...HDR.

 

Edited August 9, 20214 yr by akita

FS2020 is HDR10,

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HDR10 is defined as:^[4]

• EOTF: SMPTE ST 2084 (PQ)
• Bit depth: 10 bit
• Color primaries: Rec.2020 (identical to Rec.2100 primaries)
• Static metadata: SMPTE ST 2086 (mastering display color volume), MaxFALL (maximum frame-average light level), and MaxCLL (maximum content light level)
• Color sub-sampling: 4:2:0 (for compressed video sources)

PQ10 refers to an HDR format that uses PQ, 10-bit and Rec. 2100 color primaries without having any metadata.^[3]

HDR10 is technically limited to a maximum of 10,000 nits peak brightness, however common HDR10 contents are mastered with peak brightness from 1,000 to 4,000 nits.^[5]

HDR10 is not backward compatible with SDR displays.

On HDR10 displays that have lower color volume than the HDR10 content (for example lower peak brightness capability), the HDR10 metadata give information to help adjusting the content.^[6] However the metadata are static (remain the same for the entire video) and do not tell how the content should be adjusted, thus the decision is up to the display and the creative intents might not be preserved.^[7]

Competing formats to HDR10 are Dolby Vision and HDR10+ (that do provide dynamic metadata allowing to preserve the creative intents on each display and on a scene by scene or frame by frame basis) and also HLG (that do provide some degree of backward compatibility with SDR).^[6]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDR10}

 

If HDR is implemented badly on a screen, like mine,  then the poll doesn't reflect that.  I don't use it and like SDR just fine.  My screen is set bright and my PC is gamma @ .8.

Harsher and more realistic now.

Regards

bs

Edited August 9, 20214 yr by bean_sprout

Tonight I’ve been trying out FS on my LG OLED for the first time, it’s blown me away - an absolutely total game changer using HDR on it.