August 13, 20214 yr Well, this is a bit of a story - a bit of a long read, but with a nice positive ending for me at least! After a tortuous time with the SU5 and hotfix updates (each of which made things slightly better), I was on the verge of giving up, with constant CTD's, some after only a minute of flying, one after about 20 minutes (my record for SU5), and one even while the sim was paused! I never got to quit out of MSFS with SU5 - it would always CTD on me first. I wont go through all of the usual checks and stages I went through, CPU, GPU temperatures, RAM clocks back to standard, empty Community folder etc. etc. etc. except I had all but given up. Just to say I have been a PC system builder since 1995, and I have never had so much trouble with CTD's. Well, last night, I got fed up and went for broke. MY PC works fine with all other titles, and I can't remember a CTD in any of the others. So I went back into the BIOS, CPU (water cooled 8086K) back to 5.1 Ghz, RAM back to XMP setting (3600), and when booted into Windows, I picked a moderate overclock for my GPU (1080Ti, at 1633 GPU and 11500 memory). After testing a few games for about 40 minutes. I decided to give MSFS a go for old times sake. Before I loaded up, I put all my payware back, and all of my freeware into the community folder using the excellent addons linker. If you wonder why I did this, it is because I wanted to put MSFS back to how it was pre-SU5, and then wait for WU6 with the coming CTD fixes. But after doing this, I decided to give it one last go anyway... So anyway, in the end I was in MSFS for over four hours without a CTD, or any other kind of issue - yes, I was amazed as well! In that time I was in the Caribbean, Sedona, but mainly the Austrian Alps (with freeware DEM at 20m). My longest flight was about 1 hour 20 minutes. I did at least 3 flights between Orbx Zell-am-See and Orbx Salzburg, using different routes / different valleys. I used the Default C172 Classic, the Piaggio 149 (which seems to be perfect in SU5), the Bagolu Bush C172, and a lot of time in the new Aviat Husky, which I quite like, and seems good for the money. I did a lot more, going back to the main map screen occasionally, loading different scenery and aircraft etc. And I was in and out of the config menu, testing by going between 2k at 130% and 4k at 80% etc. all this time, MSFS was super smooth locked at 30 fps, and there was not one issue, not one CTD. (LODs on 300 / 300 by the way) I finally went to bed at gone 2am in the morning, with my eyes stinging, and almost forgetting how to shut MSFS down . I had one of the best nights ever in MSFS. I was basically stunned that it had lasted so well without a CTD. So, what changed? Obviously it would be good to know as it might help others. All I know is the following... After booting up, I installed the latest Nvidia drivers (471.68). On this occasion, I used a program I had never heard of before, but I heard about (possibly on this forum). It is called NVCleanstall and it seems rather good! I also excluded all of the Garmin addons (G1000, 750, 530 etc.) including the new NXi which I love, but decided to uninstall it from the marketplace. (It will return!) I installed newer Saitek panel drivers I found on the Logitech site (December instead of October 2020). I did this as sometimes my LED autopilot window doesn't light up. I also put in Bijans latest tree pack for the hell of it (6.05 I believe?). Just for luck, I also closed down MSFS after uninstalling the Garmin NXi and rebooted Windows again. Other than this, I really don't know what has happened. I finally settled on 4k at 75%, nearly all ultra settings (clouds at high as I like them better), and GPU temp was about 75C, and utilisation 70% on average. I don't think it ever dropped below 30fps, not one stutter, which is absolutely superb performance from a 1080Ti. I never opened the ATC window at all, and never responded (even by pressing the 1 key). I never altered weather from 'few clouds' setting. I do use live weather, but not last night at all. Obviously multiplayer was off, and AI traffic was off (as recommended at the moment). I intend to test again at the weekend (I have to go out tonight), and I will report back to see if this situation continues, and I will add anything else I can remember. I am planning a flight across the UK with the new Orbx landmarks - that should be a good couple of hours - here's hoping! Until then, I am not messing with anything! Edited August 13, 20214 yr by bobcat999 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
August 13, 20214 yr Glad you got it sorted, it can be so frustrating at times trying to fault find... AMD Ryzen 7 5800x3d, MSI X570 Pro, 32 gb DDR4 3600 ram, Gigabyte 6800 16gb GPU, 1x 2tb Samsung NvMe , 1x 2tb Sabrent NvME, 1x Crucial 4tb Nvme M2 Drive
August 13, 20214 yr Bob- after all that work, you've surely earned yourself a relaxing hour floating in your pool mate.. Enjoy! C Best- Carl Avari-Cooper
August 13, 20214 yr Very happy for you mate, nothing is more frustrating than CTD. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
August 13, 20214 yr That's awesome dude. I'm glad you got it to work properly. AMD Ryzen R9 9950X3D | Asus Astral RTX 5080 OC | 32 GB DDR5 6000 CL30 | 3440x1440 G-Sync | Logitech Pro Throttles Rudder Yoke Panels | Thrustmaster T.16000M FCS | TrackIR 5 | Oculus Rift S
August 13, 20214 yr Author 21 minutes ago, Republic3D said: That's awesome dude. I'm glad you got it to work properly. Yes, even though I am not sure how. But in any case, I really enjoyed it. Onwards and upwards! Edited August 13, 20214 yr by bobcat999 Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
August 13, 20214 yr Super ! Glad to see you up in the skies again. In my uninformed opinion getting the modded Garmin off the way was the key to success. Dominique Simming since 1981 - [email protected] GHz with 16 GB of RAM and a 1080 with 8 GB VRAM running a 27" @ 2560*1440 - Windows 10 - Warthog HOTAS - MFG pedals - MSFS Standard version with Steam
August 13, 20214 yr Author 1 hour ago, cavaricooper said: btw Bob- the NXi was just updated- might try again... Excellent - Thanks Carl! Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind). I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio. Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's. Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.
August 13, 20214 yr I had a little bit of an opposite experience this morning - hadn't had a CTD since the whole SU5 and hotfix transition period. Today I finally found myself dumped when opening the World Map. I zoomed to the departure airport to look at the possible ramp positions and.. bang. After restarting, I was able to set up my flight. After transitioning to the cockpit for start-up the instrument panel was messed up. Thinking it may have been a livery issue, I went back to the planner and changed. Sure enough, when I spawned back to the departure and entered the cockpit everything was fine. I threw the 1st switch and... bang. On the desktop. I thought that the first livery incompatibility issue may have still caused this to happen, so I restarted, used the 2nd livery again and all went well - had a great flight. The adventure continues... Randall Rocke
August 13, 20214 yr 2 hours ago, RandallR said: I had a little bit of an opposite experience this morning - hadn't had a CTD since the whole SU5 and hotfix transition period. Today I finally found myself dumped when opening the World Map. I zoomed to the departure airport to look at the possible ramp positions and.. bang. MSFS keeps track of your experiences and if your having too much fun it will shut you down. lol bs AMD RYZEN 9 5900X 12 CORE CPU - ZOTAC RTX 3060Ti GPU - NZXT H510i ELITE CASE - EVO M.2 970 500GB DRIVE - 32GB XTREEM 4000 MEM - XPG GOLD 80+ 650 WATT PS - NZXT 280 HYBRID COOLER
August 13, 20214 yr I think the story here is the minimum addons you can keep on your fs2020 the better, I have never had a CTD but have had it freeze when moving from 2d to VR when I press cntrl tab, but that was only on 2 or 3 occasions, but I do not have many addons in my community folder. https://ibb.co/nDjmzhk Edited August 13, 20214 yr by clayton4115 I7-10700F RTX 3070 32 Gig Ram
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