1 hour ago, mrueedi said:

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Especially the spiralling approach as presented in the English manual on page 75 and in this video. In my opinion something has changed between the original version shown in the video and the current aircraft. I think the landing behaviour is a bit unrealistic now. Banking the aircraft as shown in the video is hardly possible anymore close to the ground. Many times the Gina just dropped out of the sky. Elevator authority becomes nearly zero even at speeds higher than shown in the video. In the flight model cfg file, I see that the authors changed the parameters quite a bit when new MSFS versions appeared. Has somebody else also noticed this behaviour?

The overhead break landing is not the easiest way to start. To feel the aircraft, It is IMO  better to start with a long pattern and learn to stabilize the approach.

Important to remember that you can't give a burst of  power with the throttle to  restore a precarious situation. One needs to keep a hawk eye on the speed, the stall margin is narrow on this kind of aircraft, and  a high level of RPM at the ready. I find 65% too little, 75/80% i s much better specially as Gina is not too much slippery. And I regulate the speed if needed with the airbrake.

Last thing  I noted, you need to know your fuel weight at landing and don't forget the +5 kn for every 500 pounds.

Not a pilot myself, mind you, but I flew a lot the L39 in P3D.

 

6 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

superb

 A month and a bit has passed. how is the Gina treating you now? I've recently reinstalled it, the initial experience left me saying 'Never again'. There's been an update and wounds heal. 🙂

This time around it is much better. Still requires con-sen-tra-shun especially on landing but it doesn't half stoke your ego if you get it right.

There are still issues though.

1: Landings cannot be greased. However gently you try the touchdown is BASH! If anyone can pull off a smooth, 'squeak of tyres' landing I'll be up for taking lessons.

2: The drag chute can't be repacked without restarting the flight. (Repair & Refuel doesn't do it) I can't find a reference to it in the manual. I will listen to words of wisdom though.

3: It seems as though she's only good for one take off, flight and landing. If you're on a airport to airport to airport kind of mooch around then landing, wait for your mates to arrive and then take off for the next port of call nothing will get her to leave the asphalt. Despite meticulously setting the trim and flaps you will go high speed gardening!

I want to love her but she's making it difficult.

Answers on a postcard...😄

 

Edited December 13, 20214 yr by Ron Attwood
Edit, what else?

You pretty much fly the G91 onto the runway. Biggest issue landing the Gina is energy management, too much energy and you run off the end of the runway, not enough energy and you start to fall out of the sky and smack down hard with a thump and there is little or no opportunity to correct. You just need to go around if the energy state is out of the envelope.  Flaps and speed brakes are as often as not your enemy not your friend and it is very easy to end up on final in a poor energy state with a lot of thrust and a crazy high angle of attack without even realising it.

Thankfully the devs seem to be resisting calls to dumb it down to land like a Cessna. There have been a few examples were good aircraft have been ruined by devs pandering to mass market preferences to cash in, the Stearman comes to mind.

 

Edited December 13, 20214 yr by Glenn Fitzpatrick

11 hours ago, Ron Attwood said:

  A month and a bit has passed. how is the Gina treating you now?

Answers on a postcard...😄

 

She treats me well enough, a great bird.  One word on the postcard, practice.  Letter follows.

About point 1.

What Glenn said above.  Greasing a landing with 4 tons of metal and fuel squeezed between two stumps of a wing is some kind of an asymptotic goal anyway. You go nearer and nearer but never really reach it. Gina or The Taming of the Shrew. This aircraft requires a ton of practice.

In another matter, I was a little frustrated at first by my inability to trim her in cruise. Up and down and up and down etc.   After a lots of flights I do now a fair (not good, fair) job at it.  Did I say that this aircraft requires a ton of practice. You earn her.  She is not a trainer like our beloved Lotus L-39 was.

Point 2 : no way I know to repack the ‘chute.

About point 3,  most of my MSFS birds are stuck on the ground when I leave them a while after a landing . An Asobo bug I suppose. I do TnG without any problem, even by circling the runway through the taxiway😄...

My main beef besides that it uses an external app instead of the in-game Payload and Fuel panel is the old nav equipment .

11 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

She treats me well enough, a great bird.  One word on the postcard, practice.  Letter follows.

Have you grabbed the TF-104 as well ?

1 minute ago, Matchstick said:

Have you grabbed the TF-104 as well ?

I did. But I have not had enough time to fly her much yet. 

31 minutes ago, Dominique_K said:

I did. But I have not had enough time to fly her much yet. 

For some reason the reference to "two stumps of a wing" made me think of her.... 🙂

Any comments about the L-39 that arrived with the Game of the Year update?  Available in the Markerplace for <$10 in your choice of colors and model.

Just curious,

Ray

Love the L-39 Albatros. Great little aircraft to fly around.  It's got everything you need to navigate.

8 minutes ago, raymar said:

Any comments about the L-39 that arrived with the Game of the Year update?  Available in the Markerplace for <$10 in your choice of colors and model.

Just curious,

Ray

It's not the L-39 you know and love by a long way. And the pilots legs dangle underneath the plane. Don't go outside to look, it'll put you off completely.

 

41 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

It's not the L-39 you know and love by a long way. And the pilots legs dangle underneath the plane. Don't go outside to look, it'll put you off completely.

 

51 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

Love the L-39 Albatros. Great little aircraft to fly around.  It's got everything you need to navigate.

Two very different views. Thanks guys. I just took the Racing L-39 up for a first look. I also think it could be a fast little cross country personal jet. I wonder what Ron was checking when he noticed the pilot's legs dangling. Maybe foot brakes? 🙃

Regards,

Ray

1 hour ago, Ron Attwood said:

And the pilots legs dangle underneath the plane

I'm not seeing this in my copy of the L-39's. Is there a specific model you are referring to?
I have the MB-339 and it's a nice plane with, I think, a good flight model. The L-39 indeed is a nice cross country plane without bothering too much about systems.

On 12/14/2021 at 6:14 PM, bvdboomen said:

I'm not seeing this in my copy of the L-39's. Is there a specific model you are referring to?
 

No idea, just grabbed one off the shelf.