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I want to make sure I have this very clear, please.

Does X-Plane only run well on Linux?

and

Why does a Linux wizard like mSparks, running a top-end CPU like the 5900X, only have 100GB of free drive space? Doesn't he bill 1,300 Euros/hour, live on large yachts, deride "poor people*," and chug Peroni?

*I am about 90% sure I saw at least one post, and more like several by said user about 8-9 months ago in regards to this. Must I be wealthy to run X-Plane above, say, 30fps?

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28 minutes ago, OlliePen said:

Does X-Plane only run well on Linux?

I can confirm it runs well on mac too.

No one seems to have come forward saying it runs well on windows. Just lots of windows users complaining it and msfs dont run well.

Last linux windows SBS I did wasnt pretty tbh

28 minutes ago, OlliePen said:

only have 100GB of free drive space?

Lots of Cloudless Ortho:

and 3 decades of documents.

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On 11/8/2021 at 2:02 PM, mSparks said:

No one seems to have come forward saying it runs well on windows. Just lots of windows users complaining it and msfs dont run well.

I can confirm that XP runs well on Windows. But not nearly as well as MSFS. In fact but for MSFS I would not have known that far, far better performance was even possible. The comparison has made me realise that it's all down to the skill of the people writing the code and that the hardware and the OS are secondary.

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@mSparks I did the test in Win10. C172 in LYBE gave me 250+ fps upon first try.

 

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1 hour ago, rka said:

@mSparks I did the test in Win10. C172 in LYBE gave me 250+ fps upon first try.

 

hopefully this means we can put the "LR needs to work more on performance" criticisms to bed.

Lots of plane and plugin devs really need to work more on performance, and users need to be aware that specific planes/plugins can nuke it:

https://www.thresholdx.net/article/pluopt

But out of the box xp11 is perfectly capable of insane performance regardless of OS (direct comparisons between OS's is something slightly different, but for example, one of the reasons I think aircraft/plugins that nuke perf are less common on Linux, is that there is a strong correlation between devs that can't be bothered making linux versions and devs that can't be bothered optimising performance). 

 

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1 minute ago, mSparks said:

hopefully this means we can put the "LR needs to work more on performance" criticisms to bed.

Lots of plane and plugin devs really need to work more on performance, and users need to be aware that specific planes/plugins can nuke it:

https://www.thresholdx.net/article/pluopt

But out of the box xp11 is perfectly capable of insane performance regardless of OS. 

 

I hope we can now put your claims that Linux is better for XP than Windows to bed hehe...

Your last sentence is important: all this is only true if you agree to using XP11 completely stock. If and only if a person considers that graphics, feature and plane fidelity level acceptable, they get acceptable performance. Which very few people do, even here.

And I immediately lose like 100 fps just when I look out of the window - into the brown and green mud. So to me it looks like there was some cough optimization still possible cough 😄 

(The threshold text is great, but went mostly unnoticed at publishing time. It just re-surfaced with the Q4XP due to the bad performance.)

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7 minutes ago, rka said:

Linux is better for XP than Windows to bed hehe...

Well, anytime someone belittles XP performance now I can just quote you rather than blaming windows.

Would love to see a screenshot of it though....

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14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

Well, anytime someone belittles XP performance now I can just quote you rather than blaming windows.

Would love to see a screenshot of it though....

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25 minutes ago, rka said:

And I immediately lose like 100 fps just when I look out of the window

This is almost entirely about view distance: its takes a while to draw even one line 40 miles long. 

it is almost impossible to make comparisons between any of the sims or OSes just by the numbers at longer view distances, because a realistic view distance at realistic levels of detail will cripple any hardware/software, so everyone has to "hack it" by reducing the draw distance / quality in some way, and then you really get into personal preference.

32 minutes ago, rka said:

If and only if a person considers that graphics, feature and plane fidelity level acceptable

well, I dont have any complaints here tbh, (from the autoatc flight test thread)

My only complaint atm is valve and nvidia need to hurry t f up and sort steamvr out, they are both really trying my patience.

There are a few aspects I am looking forward to LR improving, but aside from the new audio stuff I dont expect any of them to change the experience in any meaningful, substantive way.

lipstick on a super model finishes the look

lipstick on a pig (e.g. 25 to 40 fps in a flightsim) is just a waste of good bacon.

 

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Next thing is removing default browser option MS controls it all edge or nothing. Welcome to ADD heaven, and it all for your own good. Really it is,

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1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Next thing is removing default browser option MS controls it all edge or nothing. Welcome to ADD heaven, and it all for your own good. Really it is,

God no! Please no! Mind you edge seems less belligerent than chrome.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Next thing is removing default browser option MS controls it all edge or nothing. Welcome to ADD heaven, and it all for your own good. Really it is,

No. you can switch to any default browser in Win10 , click start and put in Default Apps, if the windows is activated it should allow you to switch .   But since a few days i am way happier with Edge than Chrome. Also use Brave,

The day they start controlling what you use that would be the end of it.

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22 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

Do not bother with W11 that thing is uglee ,

Oh , I meant in W10 you can switch the default browser.

Installed only one W11 on a laptop , and it didn't take me long to format it.

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