1 hour ago, Dominique_K said:

I almost never see it.

Me neither.

I see a lot of people complaining for the spinning white wheel and I wonder... why such a fuss, it shows rarely and does not cause stutters to me.

Probably it's one of those things that affect users to different extents and nobody can explain why.

Edited December 11, 20214 yr by MrFuzzy

9 minutes ago, MrFuzzy said:

Me neither.

I see a lot of people complaining for the spinning white wheel and I wonder... why such a fuss, it shows rarely and does not cause stutters to me.

Probably it's one of those things that affect users to different extents and nobody can explain why.

Bad or slow internet connections, maybe?

1 hour ago, cianpars said:

Bad or slow internet connections, maybe?

I have a mediocre connection. I have observed that I also suffer to a lesser extent than some of the relief morphing.  I wonder whether this sim which seems well optimized for weaker machines is less so for better computers than mine and more sensitive to a discrepancy between the speed of the connection and the ability of the computer to process. Not an IT specialist...

I sometimes wonder if the majority of stuttering problems is due to endless tweaking of the sim, NCP, RivaTuner, various config files, etc. I have a 2018 i7-7700K build, GTX 1080, operate a small HD display, and use the internal vsync at 30 fps. Every once in a while, usually on final approach, but sometimes just when taxiing, I'll see a stutter, but usually not. I just set the graphics on HIGH, and touch nothing else.

Everyone's mileage seems to vary, however, so I doubt there's a recipe for success hidden from our eyes. MSFS is an exceptionally complex software system that seems to depend heavily on a good internet connection to the regional server. If people are having trouble, it might be a good idea to start from scratch with a non-"optimized" system and see how it goes. From what I read on this forum, I have to admit that as tempted as I am to upgrade my graphics to a beautiful 4K display, I'm surely not going to try it anytime soon. Happily the outrageous price of advanced GPU cards fully supports my instinct here.

Happy holidays everyone.

6 hours ago, stesma54 said:

How did you disable the white spinner?

You can get rid of it and its associated microstutters by opening General Options then turning Dev Mode on, then immediately off, at any point in a flight, including when you just launch to a gate before turning on the lights.  The downside is you lose logging of your flight in the pilot's logbook.  I find it very annoying to have perfectly stutter-free and smooth video then often there will be a little hitch when the spinner executes, not always but a fair amount of the time. I'd rather have perfectly smooth stutter-free flight than logged flights at this point.  I have zen desked it and it has changed some from original, but I will zen desk it again in the hopes they will relook at it.  It seems to be an indicator of logging certain kinds of events.  It's similar to the microstutters that can be associated when ATC speech fires that was much improved by the ATC StutteringFix but that had a downside as well in that it only retained the last 4 lines of speech so you had no history to scroll back to, plus it never was perfect at eliminating those microstutters, but was better for sure.  It stopped working with SU7 as well as it stopped all text from displaying in the ATC window.

54 minutes ago, jrw4 said:

I'll see a stutter, but usually not. I just set the graphics on HIGH, and touch nothing else.

I think a lot of people that are plagued by stutters, especially upon approach, by getting fooled into believing they 'ought' to be able to run all settings fully maxed and then some (custom LOD settings in UserCfg.opt for example) because they can in some scenarios, even very complex settings.  Then when they arrive at another busy airport and frames start suffering they think something is fundamentally wrong w/ MSFS in this regard, when really they've just overestimated the capabilities of their hardware and configuration.  The fact of the matter is you can't possibly compare airport area complexity by simply looking out the window and assuming it ought to be as manageable as the airport you for example took off at.  On very rare occasions now, almost never, I have needed to put Terrain LOD to less than 200 but almost always all Ultra plus LODs at 200/200 are always manageable, in the HD 787-10 that is.  When the PMDG 737 arrives that may mean dialing back settings as necessary.

Edited December 11, 20214 yr by Noel

I noticed that zooming the MSFS Garmin map in too much causes stuttering for a large percentage of people.

20 hours ago, usairways56 said:

Triple Buffering On

According to the nVidia CPL description this is for OpenGL applications. MSFS uses DirectX...
So On or OFF should make no difference.

I know it's not just in MSFS, because I have another game I play, Team Fortress 2 (when I can find a game not filled with kids) and it also gives me a few minutes before it fills with lag too.

 

39 minutes ago, andyjohnston.net said:

I know it's not just in MSFS, because I have another game I play, Team Fortress 2 (when I can find a game not filled with kids) and it also gives me a few minutes before it fills with lag too.

 

Comparing the complexity of team fortress to MSFS is akin to me farting in the bath thus creating a ripple versus a tsunami in the Indian Ocean. 

1 hour ago, sidfadc said:

Comparing the complexity of team fortress to MSFS is akin to me farting in the bath thus creating a ripple versus a tsunami in the Indian Ocean. 

You've missed the point. It's not just flight sim which is causing an issue, so it isn't a graphics setting or something.   Another program which requires some complexity also craps out after a few minutes.  It also uses an internet connection, but I was in touch with my provider an they said everything looks good, even after running MSFS long enough that it goes to pot.

 

It was in MSFS where I first noticed the issue, that's why I asked here.  I have a flight going in another window, just going around my home city and I can hear the audio has started to stutter.

Edited December 14, 20214 yr by andyjohnston.net

Not to harp on this, because it has been much discussed already, but some of us see serious stuttering only when photogrammetry is turned on. Clearly this is not a universal issue, as stuttering can have many causes, but it is for us. Someone has traced the problem to an earlier scenery update, e.g. SU5 or SU6, but I have not yet personally checked this out.