12 minutes ago, uwespeed said:

Ok, so you have the chance to investigate yourself - try it. If you claim something, you should also prove it.

Well I'm sorry but if a developer in 2022 thinks that wet pavements is something to be proud of......

12 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Well I'm sorry but if a developer in 2022 thinks that wet pavements is something to be proud of......

So they should not post pictures of new stuff they worked on? 

The funny this is, wet effects are looking much better than what the competetion offers.

Edited January 8, 20224 yr by mtaxp

  

11 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Well I'm sorry but if a developer in 2022 thinks that wet pavements is something to be proud of......

 

Are we talking about the visual representation or the simulation? What is more important in a simulator? Ok, I don't want to torture you any longer.

Weather settings in XP 11, runway conditions.

  

When you set the temperature below 0° C, you get icy conditions, and the following.

 

BTW: believe it or not, it was this way already in XP 10. And in XP 9. That's what I know for sure. I assume it was already in XP 8, possibly even earlier.

How is this solved in the other "simulator"? As I wrote already earlier (do you remember the comparison with the Potemkin Villages?) - FSX and MSFS 2020 are beguilers in this (and many other) regards. All bark and no bite.

 

Edited January 8, 20224 yr by uwespeed

9 minutes ago, uwespeed said:

  

 

Are we talking about the visual representation or the simulation? What is more important in a simulator? Ok, I don't want to torture you any longer.

Weather settings in XP 11, runway conditions.

  

When you set the temperature below 0° C, you get icy conditions, and the following.

 

BTW: believe it or not, it was this way already in XP 10. And in XP 9. That's what I know for sure. I assume it was already in XP 8, possibly even earlier.

How is this solved in the other "simulator"? As I wrote already earlier (do you remember the comparison with the Potemkin Villages?) - FSX and MSFS 2020 are beguilers in this (and many other) regards. All bark and no bite.

 

Eye candy as I said. Nothing wrong with with eye candy as I said. A pity it's five years late.

Edited January 8, 20224 yr by jarmstro

4 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Borked post.

Edited January 8, 20224 yr by jarmstro

7 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Eye candy as I said. Nothing wrong with with eye as I said. A pity it's five years late.

3 minutes ago, uwespeed said:

 

3 minutes ago, uwespeed said:

I'm guessing you are lost for words?😀

9 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

I'm guessing you are lost for words?😀

I'm trying very hard to imagine what isn't understandable in my previous post. Ok ... for making it even easier understandable: in XP (partly) wet and icy runways are simulated since ages, however, you are right, in the regard that it wasn't represented visually (until XP 12). In the other sims it was/is the other way round, namely represented visually, but not simulated. Potemkin Villages ... as I said.
Sure ... I know ... who needs simulated wet/icy runways when he can have nice looking wet ones, which behave like dry ones?

 

15 minutes ago, uwespeed said:

for making it even easier understandable: in XP (partly) wet and icy runways are simulated since ages,

Well who would of thought it. No need for any further enhancements then.

12 minutes ago, jarmstro said:

Well who would of thought it. No need for any further enhancements then.

Well ... you claimed, it's eye candy, right? And were proven wrong - as usual. What else is new?

Just now, uwespeed said:

Well ... you claimed, it's eye candy, right? And were proven wrong - as usual. What else is new?

I am trying really hard to understand why wet runways are such a big deal in 2022?

I am grateful to Laminar that the eye candy came late, otherwise it would have been driven by art and not physics. 

I am also grateful to them for not ditching Mac and Linux users by adopting DirectX. They waited for Vulkan and Metal to evolve and mature (along with the drivers of course).

5 hours ago, jarmstro said:

It's five years late. That's the point.

The important thing is that it is here finally! 😍

Maybe 5 years later in some "eye-candy" features, but 10 years in advance in other (flight simulating) features! 😍 I feel so sorry for the haters... 🤭

3 hours ago, jarmstro said:

I am trying really hard to understand why wet runways are such a big deal in 2022?

Are you not the one complaining about why did it take so long, so yes why is it such a big deal, Was never concerned.

26 minutes ago, Murmur said:

but 10 years in advance in other (flight simulating) features!

That's what you guys (flightsimmers with a preference for X-Plane) always claim. As a user of FSX, P3D, X-Plane 11 and now MSFS I have never been able to find any solid truth in these claims. I remember the feeling of disappointment after my first take off roll in the default X-Plane 11 C172. After all the hype I read about X-Plane being the holy grail in flight simulation it felt just like any other flying game... Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to X-Plane 12 and what it will bring, the screenshots look promising!