FSLabs and Fenix Sim Airbus A320's.

[Nyxx 6,993]

47 minutes ago, luizwhong said:

The new Fenix A320 is just an "Aerosoft like" plane for MSFS. Looks great, flies like a brick.

😀

I think your Whong....😉

The FBW is better than the AS bus and to say this is just an "Aerosoft like" is were I stoped read anything of yours. If thats what you think then your opinion imo has  0 weight to it.

[Jeeeno 314]

Sounds like trolling ... 

[Wise87 1,281]

19 minutes ago, Jeeeno said:

Sounds like trolling ... 

I think your right but he’s entitled to his opinion. I think I’ll take the word of the dozen or so real world bus pilots from Europe and America that I’ve seen so far demonstrate the Fenix and while not perfect give it high marks for a new company, new plane and new sim.

Edited May 24, 2022 by Wise87

[mpo910 2,112]

1 hour ago, luizwhong said:

The new Fenix A320 is just an "Aerosoft like" plane for MSFS. Looks great, flies like a brick.

Let's be honest, people. Most of the first answers in this thread are misleading. 
Biggest Lie so far: Fenix A320 is better than FSLabs. 

I'm a "Bus pilot" and that couldn't be furthest from the truth. Besides, it's a huge shot in the dark at this point in time. The thing has barely been released. 
Lots of errors in procedures, as said before, some fonts are not correct, behaving like a 20 series Learjet on initial climb, FBW doesn't seem right... That's what we could get so far! I bet if we test it to the core we'll find even more flaws. I tested and didn't like it. Looks nice, though, but grandma always said "Beauty is ephemeral". Besides, FSL looks pretty good too. And it simulates to the fidelity of the real plane. 

You can try pretty much every failure situation or every system function with FSL and it will give you exactly what the real thing would. Just test it with your v5. 
No FS A320 can be compared to FSL today. Hey, look: I'm not a word not allowed! FSLabs support and after sales support S*CKS. 

FSL can take much longer to release their version for MSFS, but when they do, it'll probably be bug free. Besides, it'll cost much more than 60 bucks. However, if it comes with the quality of their products for P3D, which is most likely, it will be worth every penny.

So you have a choice to make: 
1 - Being flustered and spending $61 on an imitation plane that only looks cute for software that is far from physics-enhanced for a flight simulator (MSFS), that if you don't care about realism and don't want to learn anything from the plane your simulating or the flight simulation itself. 

OR

2 - Enjoy your good Airbus simulator in P3D v5 and save money to buy the good one in a near future, praying to see a good improvement in the MSFS dynamics an physics and don't lose your time and money in the process, that if you really care about learning something while you simulate. 
 

So you actually have aerosoft and Fenix? Because you make exactly that statement and that could only be made when you own those two planes. 

I bet you do not own Fenix and Aerosoft at all. 

Your post is worthless. 

[Jeeeno 314]

3 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

I think your right but he’s entitled to his opinion. I think I’ll take the word of the dozen or so real world bus pilots from Europe and America that I’ve seen so far demonstrate the Fenix and while not perfect give it high marks for a new company, new plane and new sim. 

I said trolling when I read "It's like Aerosoft" when clearly it isn't and you don't have to be a real world pilot to notice. 

[Claudius_ 326]

I'm just reading what appears to be sterile statements about  the different versions of the A320, it could be very interesting if someone would give us some numbers. Please no fanalboys or haters "opinions".

Edited May 24, 2022 by Claudius_

[FlyingGoose 405]

2 minutes ago, Claudius_ said:

I'm just reading what appears to be sterile statements about  the different versions of the A320, it could be very interesting if someone would give us some numbers. Please no word not allowed or haters "opinions".

Having read your posts in the other Fenix thread, I don’t think any “numbers” would change your mind. Even if the CEO of Airbus provided them.  
 

I’m out of this thread with this last statement - buy the plane, don’t buy it, who cares?? This is a sim, do whatever makes you happy. Have a great day all. 
 

 

 

 

[Claudius_ 326]

4 hours ago, FlyingGoose said:

Having read your posts in the other Fenix thread, I don’t think any “numbers” would change your mind. Even if the CEO of Airbus provided them.  

I’m out of this thread with this last statement - buy the plane, don’t buy it, who cares?? This is a sim, do whatever makes you happy. Have a great day all. 
 

This is a forum where I learned a lot of things and where we can discuss freely about airplanes and flight simulators, it is not necessarily a market place where I have to buy anything to understand how it works.

[JRBarrett 3,076]

1 hour ago, luizwhong said:

Lots of errors in procedures, as said before, some fonts are not correct, behaving like a 20 series Learjet on initial climb, FBW doesn't seem right...

I am not a r/w A320 pilot, but I work at an airport. Yesterday, I watched an Allegiant A320 depart while simultaneously monitoring the real-time ADS-B readout on FlightRadar 24. The airport is 960 feet elevation MSL the surface temperature yesterday was 65 F 

Exactly 60 seconds after the mains left the ground the aircraft was passing 5,200 feet, which equates to an initial climb rate of 4,240 FPM. It appears the A320 is certainly capable of “sporty” climb performance. I have no idea of what power setting was used, or what the load was, though I do know that the AAY flights to Orlando from here are often close to full.

[OmniAtlas 93]

1 hour ago, luizwhong said:

The new Fenix A320 is just an "Aerosoft like" plane for MSFS. Looks great, flies like a brick.

Let's be honest, people. Most of the first answers in this thread are misleading. 
Biggest Lie so far: Fenix A320 is better than FSLabs. 

I'm a "Bus pilot" and that couldn't be furthest from the truth. Besides, it's a huge shot in the dark at this point in time. The thing has barely been released. 
Lots of errors in procedures, as said before, some fonts are not correct, behaving like a 20 series Learjet on initial climb, FBW doesn't seem right... That's what we could get so far! I bet if we test it to the core we'll find even more flaws. I tested and didn't like it. Looks nice, though, but grandma always said "Beauty is ephemeral". Besides, FSL looks pretty good too. And it simulates to the fidelity of the real plane. 

You can try pretty much every failure situation or every system function with FSL and it will give you exactly what the real thing would. Just test it with your v5. 
No FS A320 can be compared to FSL today. Hey, look: I'm not a word not allowed! FSLabs support and after sales support S*CKS. 

FSL can take much longer to release their version for MSFS, but when they do, it'll probably be bug free. Besides, it'll cost much more than 60 bucks. However, if it comes with the quality of their products for P3D, which is most likely, it will be worth every penny.

So you have a choice to make: 
1 - Being flustered and spending $61 on an imitation plane that only looks cute for software that is far from physics-enhanced for a flight simulator (MSFS), that if you don't care about realism and don't want to learn anything from the plane your simulating or the flight simulation itself. 

OR

2 - Enjoy your good Airbus simulator in P3D v5 and save money to buy the good one in a near future, praying to see a good improvement in the MSFS dynamics an physics and don't lose your time and money in the process, that if you really care about learning something while you simulate. 
 

Although not a real world pilot, I've had several Airbus A320 pilots fly my sim (running ProSimA320) and there was quite a fair bit of commentary on the systems and inaccuracy. 

Hopefully with Fenix now released (using ProSim as the backbone for their systems) they take notice and fix these outstanding bugs which have been present for the last 4 years or more.  

 

[flyingpauls 66]

Bashing the Fenix A320 the way that some do here is incredibly rude. This is a developer who cares, and promised to fix any remaining issue as soon as possible. Moreover, it is like calling all those pilots that tested the plane and confirmed that it is the most realistic so far, both in systems and handling, paid liars or at least blind. Before I insult anybody like this, I want big evidence. I do remember the times when the FSL had more problems than solutions, and I also do remember the installed Virus. They have excused and that's okay for me. But P3D will never enter my disk again, and thus no A320 by them.

[lwt1971 7,417]

A "real 320 pilot" with 7 posts sounding rather more like a threatened FSL stalwart ... thanks for the comedy. Sounds like the reality of the MSFS + realistic aircrafts combination is really getting to some out there for whatever strange reasons in the past few weeks... perhaps to feel better they should avoid watching all these IRL 320 pilot after pilot praising the Fenix and MSFS.. after all, if you feel Fenix paid all of them to make YT videos to sell the product (aside: LOL), then it's probably in your interest to not watch them and keep telling yourself that FSL is the best ever and focus on flying those aircrafts in P3D ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited May 24, 2022 by lwt1971

[mpo910 2,112]

Honestly I can't compare them even I own them both. Because I'm not so deep into the systems. 

The feedback both get from real live pilots is very positive. Some find bugs in both and that's normal I think.

With this positive feedback I'm very confident I have bought 2 good products and they both deliver me what I want, even far more then that. 

I'm able to use them both with joy. 

People who ask real world pilots about "which one is more like the real thing" should know, they seem not to be able to see the difference anymore at all, because they need to ask and that's fine, but also exceeding the knowledge they have already. So they should be fine with both products or one of them. 

FSlabs and Fenix have delivered a good piece of work....wich exceeds the level of knowledge for most of us here far. That's a good thing and gives me enough to learn. 

I like them both and would like to thank both developers delivering this kind of work to us.....hobby sim pilots. 

About the pricing. I think non of us here is able to judge. We do NOT have a clue about the amount of work AND we do not know about how many are willing to pay which price. 

Because sometimes having a good product and less competition does increase the price, that's how sales also work. Always bin that way with many things. 

I was happy to pay for what I've bought.....regardless Fslabs or Fenix. Because they gave me the opportunity to have great experience. 

That's worth the pennies I've paid. 

Marcus

 

Edited May 24, 2022 by mpo910

[Greggy_D 936]

No real specifics from this one. Just a bunch of generalizations.

Tell us bus driver, what exactly is wrong?  Exactly. 

[mpo910 2,112]

2 minutes ago, Greggy_D said:

No real specifics from this one. Just a bunch of generalizations.

Tell us bus driver, what exactly is wrong?  Exactly. 

Who are you referring to?