Once this is completed, you should post it on the official forum @Bobsk8

Maybe it will push MS/Asobo a little to make it better. They might still think that most (study) simmers use Vatsim. Also, I bet many of the "Don't use any ATC program" would use the default if it was working well.

Edited August 7, 20223 yr by Gerwil
most into many, and MS/Asobo make it better

50% used default, I didn't expect it to be that high.  See I don't want to run another program or talk to real people so I just use default.  But if we are honest the ATC in FS has never been good. 

I was very disappointed in the ATC after the discover series videos talked it up.  I though, this is just FSX ATC again.

17 minutes ago, Gerwil said:

Once this is completed, you should post it on the official forum @Bobsk8

Maybe it will push them a little. They might still think that most (study) simmers use Vatsim. Also, I bet many of the "Don't use any ATC program" would use the default if it was working well.

I can't imagine even flying without using some type of  ATC, either something like PF3 which I use, or even default. No ATC at all, talk about an immersion breaker. ???

Default ATC for me and supplemented with FS ATC Chatter by Stick and Rudder Studios.

1 hour ago, kt069 said:

Pilot2ATC,  best of all

What in that program impresses you the most? I found the voices robotic so I tried PF3 which I have stayed with.

Like I mentioned, I haven't really looked into PF3 (or any of the other ATC addons). But today I just browsed through the PF3 website and found this: 

PF3 comes complete with 119 voice sets covering 26 geographic regions in the PF3 world

Wow. That's quite impressive. I think the MSFS voices sounds good, but of course there's almost no variation. As they have a "try before you buy" option I'll give it a go. 

10 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

What in that program impresses you the most? I found the voices robotic so I tried PF3 which I have stayed with.

For me it was ease of use and the fact it's voice controlled (which I wasn't looking for at the time).

Does IFR well, just create your flightplan without procedures file it and go. If it's a decent day I can even cancel IFR and go VFR on approach.

I did the trial of PF3 and P2ATC at the same time, and P2ATC was the winner by a large margin. YMMV.

 

G

14 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

What in that program impresses you the most? I found the voices robotic so I tried PF3 which I have stayed with.

The issue that got me with Pilot 2 ATC is spending a fortune on getting voices for it. PF3 came with over 100 controller voices. I think you get 2 or 3 with Pilot 2 ATC. Then it is $35 a voice, last time I looked. 

3 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Like I mentioned, I haven't really looked into PF3 (or any of the other ATC addons). But today I just browsed through the PF3 website and found this: 

PF3 comes complete with 119 voice sets covering 26 geographic regions in the PF3 world

Wow. That's quite impressive. I think the MSFS voices sounds good, but of course there's almost no variation. As they have a "try before you buy" option I'll give it a go. 

Now the demo only has 4 voices, and they are not the best voices, so keep that in mind. 

29 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

What in that program impresses you the most? I found the voices robotic so I tried PF3 which I have stayed with.

Speech Recognition

Copilot Handling the Communication (as requested)

Detailed Flight Planning , Aproaches and Departures

Interaction with FS Chatter

Export & Import Flight Plans

Moving Map

Metar Info (Weather info)

Ease of Use 

Interaction with ATC (change route, enroute decent,...)

Ability to add new voices (Windows , Ivona, etc.) (of course it would be nice to have the app with many voice options included)

and more...

 

 

Edited August 7, 20223 yr by kt069

3 minutes ago, kt069 said:

Speech Recognition

Copilot Handling the Communication (as requested)

Detailed Flight Planning , Aproaches and Departures

Interaction with FS Chatter

Export & Import Flight Plans

Ease of Use 

Interaction with ATC (change route, enroute decent,...)

Ability to add new voices (Windows , Ivona, etc.) (of course it would be nice to have the app with many voice options included)

and more...

 

 

PF3 does almost all the items you mentioned, except flight planing, which I do with Simbrief. 

16 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Now the demo only has 4 voices, and they are not the best voices, so keep that in mind. 

I will. Once I get the demo to work. So far I'm getting an error message. And I had to turn my antivirus software off for it to complete the installation. 

20 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

PF3 does almost all the items you mentioned, except flight planing, which I do with Simbrief. 

Does PF3 dynamically assign SIDs / STARs / Approaches now?

Got it in my head that it didn't, although that may be down to the fact I didn't manage to get it to do that during the trial...

 

G

Just now, Gazzareth said:

Does PF3 dynamically assign SIDs / STARs / Approaches now?

Got it in my head that it didn't, although that may be down to the fact I didn't manage to get it to do that during the trial...

 

G

No, you get them from your flight plan or charts. 

1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

No, you get them from your flight plan or charts. 

Guess I made right choice then, had assumed it was because I wasn't familiar.

G