October 21, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, G-RFRY said: 20:27 the wrapup conclusion: Yes, he tested the i9 13900k a day ago and found it to be a power hog, needs a monster cooler, and expensive. Not a good buy. But he likes the cheaper i5 13600k and points out "this is the last chance for a new DDR4 build or if you want to hold on to your old DDR4 memory and really cut down on price". 5800X3D, RTX4070, 600 Watt, one or two 1440p 32" screens, 64 GB RAM, 4 TB PCle 3 NVMe, Warthog throttle, VKB NXT EVO stick, Honeycomb Alpha yoke, CH quad, 3 Logitech panels, 2 StreamDecks, Desktop Aviator Trim Panel. Crystal Light VR.
October 21, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, Fielder said: 20:27 the wrapup conclusion: Yes, he tested the i9 13900k a day ago and found it to be a power hog, needs a monster cooler, and expensive. Not a good buy. But he likes the cheaper i5 13600k and points out "this is the last chance for a new DDR4 build or if you want to hold on to your old DDR4 memory and really cut down on price". Some Great points. The 13600k might not be as good for flight sim due to the l3 cache. I just had to make an unexpected rebuild. I elected to go with am4 platform so I could reuse my semi fast ddr4. Decided I’d ride the 5800x3d for a few generations then do another rebuild 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 21, 20223 yr 4 hours ago, micstatic said: Some Great points. The 13600k might not be as good for flight sim due to the l3 cache. I just had to make an unexpected rebuild. I elected to go with am4 platform so I could reuse my semi fast ddr4. Decided I’d ride the 5800x3d for a few generations then do another rebuild The Z790 DDR4 MB is an option for Intel MBs not on AMD 7000, And temps in games on the 13900K are about the same as AMD CPUs only if you start run synthetic benchmarks software that stress the CPU then both get HOT. Raymond Fry.
October 21, 20223 yr 17 hours ago, RobJC said: You might want to look at AM5, as that platform will be around for years. It is the 7000 series CPUs. The 5000 series CPUs are AM4, so the time to build a system around that motherboard has passed. Jmho. Possibly. Looks like the release date for those will be Q1 2023 if I'm reading correctly? Not in a huge hurry so I could try to snag other parts in the meantime and hope there's black Friday sales or something. 5800x3d Asus 4090 ROG Strix OC 2TB SSD 32GB Ram
October 21, 20223 yr It`s been noted by some eagle-eyed users that the Z790 CPU cover is marked 17xx-18xx, this may mean the next CPU is compatible. Edited October 21, 20223 yr by G-RFRY Raymond Fry.
October 25, 20223 yr More like rest in peace 13900K. Its end of the line.... Unless you're making a minor upgrade, it's a complete waste of time to build around that chip.
October 25, 20223 yr On 10/20/2022 at 9:50 PM, pgde said: Also, isn't there an issue with Windows11, AMD's 7xxx series and SMT degrading performance? See Ooops wrong info sorry Edited October 25, 20223 yr by Ianrivaldosmith
October 25, 20223 yr MSFS in the bench 1080P CPU test AMD running slightly hotter in MSFS. Core i7 13700K vs Ryzen 7 7700X - Test in 10 Games - YouTube Raymond Fry.
October 26, 20223 yr I did a uppgrade for a friend with tight budget for MSFS2020, old system AMD 1800X mobo ASUS crosshair VI hero from 2017 gpu nv1070. put in a NVIDIA 3080 and flash to the latest bios for the MoBo swap cpu to a 5800X3D uninstall with DDU install new drivers up and running. perfomance up in pair with latest systems with a 5year old Mobo even that it not support pcie 4. do this with a intel system from 2017 Z270 http://
October 27, 20223 yr ERRONUEOS SUBJECT... Intel only beats AMD by 1 or 2 points on that benchmark; that's not even a quarter of a frame. Meaning , to MSFS, there is absolutely NO difference . They are both top chips. In fact AMD, may be more beneficial using very high resection and multiple monitors. 🤷♂️
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