5 minutes ago, ark said:

If I purchase a yearly subscription and cancel it after a few months, I assume they will refund the cost of the "unused" months (although perhaps charging you at the slightly higher monthly rate for the used months, which would be fair).  Correct?

No.

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With Navigraph, can I simply download an approach, STAR or SID chart (a pdf I would guess) and put it on a second monitor for reference like I can so with a FAA chart accessed through SkyVector?

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If I cancel a Navigraph subscription, I understand the last AIRAC download I have will still be available to apps like Little Navmap, but I assume using a Navigraph chart with the G3000, like with the HJet, no longer works since I expect that uses an internet connection back to Navigraph. In other words, access to and display of individual charts in the last purchased AIRAC is no longer possible.

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Thanks for any clarification on this,

Al

You're welcome 🙂 Very good questions.

7 minutes ago, ark said:

If I purchase a yearly subscription and cancel it after a few months, I assume they will refund the cost of the "unused" months (although perhaps charging you at the slightly higher

That sounds very unlikely. You purchased a whole year and when you cancel the subscription you will have access until that year is over.

20 minutes ago, crimplene said:

That sounds very unlikely. You purchased a whole year and when you cancel the subscription you will have access until that year is over.

Well, you could be right. The Navigraph website says the yearly subscription can be canceled at any time. So I don't know what that means for sure. I suppose it could mean just cancel the automatic yearly renewal? If that's the case, then I would want to start with a trial monthly subscription to see how it goes.

Thanks,

Al

 

Edited December 29, 20223 yr by ark

17 minutes ago, ark said:

If that's the case, then I would want to start with a trial monthly subscription to see how it goes.

That's what I would recommend.

I've been a (reluctant) subscriber to Navigraph for some time now. There are things I like, and things I don't like. 

Like:

- access to a wide array of charts
- ability to regularly update nav data (whether there is a necessity to do this monthly if you're never flying Vatsim is probably open to debate). 
- the moving map feature is extremely helpful for taxiing. 
- the integration of Navigraph charts into the modded G3000 and G5000 
- Simbrief integration and the ability to export your flight plan from Navigraph

Things I don't like:

- I find the desktop application of the chart viewer and the flight plan builder to be unintuitive and not very user friendly.
- the ingame panel is a mess in terms of user friendliness, plus it looks quite unattractive and is loaded with buttons, tabs and what not. 
- also, I've yet to sucessfully "wrangle" the ingame charts panel into a tablet form, always get the message: the panel needs to be in this ugly square/rectangle format
- the beta 8.XX ingame charts panel generates lots of stutters (reported by other users on the Navigraph forum).
- the Navigraph app doesn't work with smart phones, you have to use the web-based version. 

On balance, the availibilty of charts and the moving map feature outweigh the negatives (for me).

Edited December 29, 20223 yr by Ricardo41

1 hour ago, Ricardo41 said:

I've been a (reluctant) subscriber to Navigraph for some time now. There are things I like, and things I don't like. 

Good info, thanks.

Al

Thanks all for the inputs -- much appreciated.  I've been using the approach, STAR and SID charts from SkyVector which is fine, but only covers the US. Trying to find the charts I want for other countries is hit and miss -- sometimes easy, sometimes impossible, but almost always time consuming. So I'll try a monthly Navigraph subscription.

Al

3 hours ago, ark said:

With Navigraph, can I simply download an approach, STAR or SID chart (a pdf I would guess) and put it on a second monitor for reference like I can so with a FAA chart accessed through SkyVector?

 

3 hours ago, rka said:

Yes.

Well, to be precise: that should be no, really. Yes, you can open charts in the Navigraph app or on the Navigraph website and show them on a second monitor (or in any plane that supports this on its EFB) but you can NOT DOWNLOAD pdf's of the charts and for instance save them for future use. You can only view them in the cloud and that's it. So you can't download a load of charts, stop the subscription and keep on using the charts. The ONLY thing you can keep on using after ending a subscription is the installed AIRAC.

56 minutes ago, tup61 said:

 

Well, to be precise: that should be no, really. Yes, you can open charts in the Navigraph app or on the Navigraph website and show them on a second monitor (or in any plane that supports this on its EFB) but you can NOT DOWNLOAD pdf's of the charts and for instance save them for future use. You can only view them in the cloud and that's it. So you can't download a load of charts, stop the subscription and keep on using the charts. The ONLY thing you can keep on using after ending a subscription is the installed AIRAC.

Just take a screen shot of the displayed chart. This can be saved as a jpg, png, or pdf, to be recalled at any time on any monitor or in some apps.

You can also print them so you have paper versions. I have printouts of my most plates both for real life flying and in the sim. Nice thing is paper never crashes. And I still use a knee board and pencil and paper in real life as well.

1 hour ago, tup61 said:

 

Well, to be precise: that should be no, really. Yes, you can open charts in the Navigraph app or on the Navigraph website and show them on a second monitor (or in any plane that supports this on its EFB) but you can NOT DOWNLOAD pdf's of the charts and for instance save them for future use. You can only view them in the cloud and that's it. So you can't download a load of charts, stop the subscription and keep on using the charts. The ONLY thing you can keep on using after ending a subscription is the installed AIRAC.

Huh? 

If you call up a chart, there is a print button. You can then either print the chart or download it (using the print to pdf feature of whatever software you have installed) as a pdf.

 

Seems like there are a number of good choices for saving a chart -- thanks for the info guys.

Al

Edited December 29, 20223 yr by ark

Looking at charts on sim garmins is too tedious for me.  Simple solution is AIRNAV or SKYMAP.

sp

1 hour ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Looking at charts on sim garmins is too tedious for me.  Simple solution is AIRNAV or SKYMAP.

sp

The AIRNAV chart site seems to be US only.  Not sure I could find the correct SKYMAP site -- what I found was astronomy oriented, didn't see any approach charts, etc.

Al

Edited December 30, 20223 yr by ark

16 minutes ago, ark said:

The AIRNAV chart site seems to be US only.  Not sure I could find the correct SKYMAP site -- what I found was astronomy oriented, didn't see any approach charts, etc.

Al

Try skyvector.

sp

1 minute ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Try skyvector.

sp

Yep, I've been using SkyVector for years, their approach charts are also US only.  My Navigraph motivation is based on the need for non-US charts.

Thanks,

Al