February 10, 20233 yr Are they having a laugh or what? Is this their idea of "Premium Deluxe"? Maybe there is something wrong with my installation so I am wondering if anyone esle is having this issue as it's utterly unusable. I have never seen such preposterous elevation issues. You couldn't get a tank around parts of this airport so nevermind a 737. The taxiways have huge drops that are near vertical and I DO mean HUGE drops. Only Evel Knievel could find use for what I'm seeing and even he would think twice. Are you guys seeing anything like this? Can you use your "Premium Deluxe" KDEN at all? 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 10, 20233 yr Yeah, it's a chocolate mess...going on 2.5 years now. Taxiing at DIA is like going cross-country on an ATV. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
February 10, 20233 yr Author 3 minutes ago, Bob Scott said: Yeah, it's a chocolate mess...going on 2.5 years now. Taxiing at DIA is like going cross-country on an ATV. And no one there has seen fit to fix it? I'm amazed😆 It's inexcusable. You can't list that as a selling point of the "Premium Deluxe" when you can't use it. It would be better if it were removed entirely. If I unistall this will I get the standard version and is that usable? 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 10, 20233 yr That's why I bought Flightbeam's KDEN. The initial "bespoke" airports are between acceptable (EDDF; at least if you don't need taxi signage and stuff... which you do in EDDF, believe me) and outright bad (KDEN). Those later developed like EDDS or LPFR are actually quite nice, but those are made by Gaya Simulations. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
February 10, 20233 yr Author 17 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: That's why I bought Flightbeam's KDEN. The initial "bespoke" airports are between acceptable (EDDF; at least if you don't need taxi signage and stuff... which you do in EDDF, believe me) and outright bad (KDEN). Those later developed like EDDS or LPFR are actually quite nice, but those are made by Gaya Simulations. I was tempted by that before I even found out how bad the MSFS version was. I can't justify it though. I just won't use it often enough. I can't believe they have left such an airport as Denver in such a state, though. It's really not good enough. I should at least expect to be able to use it. I have had to uninstall the "Deluxe" 🤣 version and use the standard one in order to get out of the place. Absurd. I found it quite amusing at first. Until my 737 had literally beached itself on the taxiway 😄 I should have taken a screenshot. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 10, 20233 yr 10 minutes ago, Jazz said: I was tempted by that before I even found out how bad the MSFS version was. I can't justify it though. I just won't use it often enough. I can't believe they have left such an airport as Denver in such a state, though. It's really not good enough. I should at least expect to be able to use it. I have had to uninstall the "Deluxe" 🤣 version and use the standard one in order to get out of the place. Absurd. I found it quite amusing at first. Until my 737 had literally beached itself on the taxiway 😄 I should have taken a screenshot. Well there's a hole (or a hill? can't remember) on the runway of Asobo's ESSA since 2021, another "bespoken" airport, so probably "bespoken" does not include the possibility to land your aircraft without dying. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
February 10, 20233 yr 35 minutes ago, Fiorentoni said: Well there's a hole (or a hill? can't remember) on the runway of Asobo's ESSA since 2021, another "bespoken" airport, so probably "bespoken" does not include the possibility to land your aircraft without dying. Hi, there's a fix for ESSA (rwy 26) "essa-arlanda-fix" you just place in your community folder. I'm sorry, but I can't remember where I downloaded it. A google search will find it.
February 11, 20233 yr 5 hours ago, Jazz said: I found it quite amusing at first. Until my 737 had literally beached itself on the taxiway 😄 I should have taken a screenshot. I don't recall this being an issue until a couple of SU's back. Since I had not been there for a while the elevation defect was new to me so I zendesked it along w/ photos etc just a week ago. Bob says it's been here for the duration but that's not my recollection and for the first 2 years I did a lot of flights in and out of KDEN. Here's one screenshot I sent: Edited February 11, 20233 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
February 11, 20233 yr I'm getting the same issue at TNCM in St. Maarten. Have to climb a hill to take the runway - looks very similar to that. Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
February 11, 20233 yr Author 8 hours ago, Noel said: I don't recall this being an issue until a couple of SU's back. Since I had not been there for a while the elevation defect was new to me so I zendesked it along w/ photos etc just a week ago. Bob says it's been here for the duration but that's not my recollection and for the first 2 years I did a lot of flights in and out of KDEN. Here's one screenshot I sent: 🤣 Yeap, that's the sort of thing I was encountering. Honestly, they have some nerve charging extra for some of these airports. I actually only recently bought the sim after spending 16 months using it by paying for Game Pass. I bought the Super Duper Premium De-Luxe version that is packaged for mugs like me. Had I known about the problems with some of these airports I would not have paid the extra and just bought the standard version. I could have bought a few airports then. I'll be making a complaint about these airports to them, I think. Look at it! 🤣 It's not good enough. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 11, 20233 yr Author 7 hours ago, eslader said: I'm getting the same issue at TNCM in St. Maarten. Have to climb a hill to take the runway - looks very similar to that. I'll give that a look later. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 11, 20233 yr They really should revisit the original premium deluxe airports. There was nothing to measure them against at launch. Now there, er, is. After they offloaded the world update stuff to other developers they became as good as payware. It's a tad cloying that the few native airports you actually pay for are the weakest by a country mile.
February 11, 20233 yr Isn't that the difference with having PG on or off? As I recall KDEN is in the middle of a PG area. PG has different (higher) mesh resolution. Just a guess. I haven't been at KDEN in MSFS.
February 11, 20233 yr Author 6 minutes ago, bvdboomen said: Isn't that the difference with having PG on or off? As I recall KDEN is in the middle of a PG area. PG has different (higher) mesh resolution. Just a guess. I haven't been at KDEN in MSFS. I'll test that and perhaps you're correct but really it's irrelevant. It shouldn't be happening. End of story. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
February 11, 20233 yr 4 hours ago, Jazz said: I'll give that a look later. I suspect it has to do with whatever is causing the world tears that so many of us are crashing into when we're taxiing or taking off. I think the underlying terrain mesh is severely messed up in places. Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
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