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7950x3D shaping up to demolish the 13900k in MSFS

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24 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

For our benefit, could you unlock your framerate and tell us whether you're CPU limited or GPU limited in your demanding areas? From your signature, you're running a 3080, correct? I think a lot of folks are still on the fence about upgrading to a 40 series card just yet, so this would be a great way to see an upgrade comparison CPU v GPU.

I had exactly the same PC spec like yours  (11900k-64gb-3090) and i could confirm with my new upgrade MSFS is ultra smooth with out any limitation.7950x3d looks killer but i am an Intel guy and 13900k is more than enough combined with 4090 in frame generation. 

 

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2 hours ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Just because my car has 400 HP doesn't mean i have to go full throttle the whole time.

You wouldn't be able to if you transferred what you do to your PC in to your car. Like buying a 400HP car and limiting it to 200HP. 

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1 hour ago, V1ROTA7E said:

I think a lot of folks are still on the fence about upgrading to a 40 series card just yet, so this would be a great way to see an upgrade comparison CPU v GPU.

Not sure why. They need to jump off that fence and get a 4 series ahead of a CPU upgrade, unless they're on some ancient CPU. As discussed, frame generation makes a WORLD of difference. 

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12 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

You wouldn't be able to if you transferred what you do to your PC in to your car. Like buying a 400HP car and limiting it to 200HP. 

Not sure i get that. Both reduces wear and tear and fuel consumption. I dont limit my car, i just dont push it that much. And if i like to, the german Autobahn is my friend.


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9 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

I dont limit my car,

I never said you limited your car 🙂 

You are running 30hz with a 4090 and a 13900K? Boggles the mind. 

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Just now, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I never said you limited your car 🙂 

You are running 30hz with a 4090 and a 13900K? Boggles the mind. 

Doesn't need to. Using MSFS i am completely happy with 30Hz. Why use more resources than needed? As said above all other games make full use of my system which is very enjoyable.


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1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I never said you limited your car 🙂 

You are running 30hz with a 4090 and a 13900K? Boggles the mind. 

I agree 100% with Ian. Also even with unlimited FPS ( with out any limit/cap ) 4090 is on chilling-time with temps 40-50c, so you have a relaxed beast to give you as much fps and smoothens you want  in flight simulation.

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2 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Doesn't need to. Using MSFS i am completely happy with 30Hz. Why use more resources than needed? As said above all other games make full use of my system which is very enjoyable.

What monitor you have? I tried 30fps on my setup and looks/feels really bad.

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3 minutes ago, Seth2021 said:

What monitor you have? I tried 30fps on my setup and looks/feels really bad.

Its a 78" Samsung LED TV capable of 120Hz.

Edit: Addition: 30Hz on that screen looks and feels completely smooth. No Judders, Jiggles, tearings or whatsoever.

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9 minutes ago, ThomseN_inc said:

Its a 78" Samsung LED TV capable of 120Hz.

Edit: Addition: 30Hz on that screen looks and feels completely smooth. No Judders, Jiggles, tearings or whatsoever.

i guess you are not using frame generation. Because if you have this enabled, you could cap fps to 60 and have stable fps even on high demanding airports and aircrafts 

I just bought Dell Alienware AW3423DW Ultrawide QD-OLED HDR Curved Gaming Monitor and 30 fps looks very bad ( jerky with micro-stutters)

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Just now, Seth2021 said:

i guess you are not using frame generation. Because if you have this enabled, you could cap fps to 60 and have stable fps even on high demanding airports and aircrafts 

I am indeed not. Tried different settings and chose the one i was pleased the most with. 60 fps isnt thach much better than 30 imho (only apllies to MSFS of course). Sure it makes a difference but i opted for 30 fps and instead i use TLOD 400 and still get a smooth experience.

Its just my personal setting and decision. Each to his own i guess.

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5 minutes ago, Seth2021 said:

I just bought Dell Alienware AW3423DW Ultrawide QD-OLED HDR Curved Gaming Monitor and 30 fps looks very bad ( jerky with micro-stutters)

Yeah there seem to be differences but i am not an expert and sure don't know WHAT makes the difference here. All i can say is that on my Screen its absolutely smooth.


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Just now, ThomseN_inc said:

I am indeed not. Tried different settings and chose the one i was pleased the most with. 60 fps isnt thach much better than 30 imho (only apllies to MSFS of course). Sure it makes a difference but i opted for 30 fps and instead i use TLOD 400 and still get a smooth experience.

Its just my personal setting and decision. Each to his own i guess.

been in MSFS since 1995 and Ive literally never had a stutter free FS experience in all these years till recently. So if its not broke dont fix it. I spent 20 years tinkering w settings a .cfgs and could never get that holy grail experience till the last few builds on msfs.  I rather stutter free then slightly slower panning speeds. The other thing is the 3080 cant handle more, if I upgrade to a 4000 nvidia then frame gen would be cool , but Im just not paying 1500+ for 100FPS when 30 FPs smooth is good enough for ME. thank you for my ted talk


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1 hour ago, Seth2021 said:

I had exactly the same PC spec like yours  (11900k-64gb-3090) and i could confirm with my new upgrade MSFS is ultra smooth with out any limitation.7950x3d looks killer but i am an Intel guy and 13900k is more than enough combined with 4090 in frame generation. 

 

Think a 13900k with a 308 would be good for 4k? My i9-9900k is hurting big time now. 


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2 minutes ago, wiler said:

been in MSFS since 1995 and Ive literally never had a stutter free FS experience in all these years till recently. So if its not broke dont fix it. I spent 20 years tinkering w settings a .cfgs and could never get that holy grail experience till the last few builds on msfs.  I rather stutter free then slightly slower panning speeds. The other thing is the 3080 cant handle more, if I upgrade to a 4000 nvidia then frame gen would be cool , but Im just not paying 1500+ for 100FPS when 30 FPs smooth is good enough for ME. thank you for my ted talk

As i said twice i am not only playing MSFS. Red Dead Redemption in 4k @ 120Hz is quite nice. So is Cyberpunk. Hard to believe for some that there's more out there than just MSFS.

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