11 minutes ago, El Diablito said:

I just have to ask....can you explain how?

Sure. Takeoffs, landings and general aviation flying. When we are no longer "flying on rails", 30 fps simply make the whole experience different and wrong. The way a thermal 'feels' and the way you reacting to thermals and wind changes on landing is simply different. The whole experience is much more...faster... ? 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by roi1862

I spent an hour this morning locked at 30 and then 60 and then unlimited. On my system there was NO discernible difference (except for a 24 degree hike in GPU temps). I've tried this experiment a hundred times and always reach the same conclusion - the internet is wrong 😉

24 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

the internet is wrong 😉

It's not the internet telling you 😉 

Do commercial sims lock at 30fps? The certification of the Level D simulator requires the frame rate to be locked at 60. There is a reason for this. If you can not notice a difference, fine for you. However there IS a difference. 

It's like putting my wife in my sports car, she wont notice a difference from her usual run around whilst driving it, getting her from A to B. However, someone that knows what they are doing will notice a massive difference.  

 

Flying at 60FPS or above is more fluid, more responsive. Thats a fact. It is not opinion. It is fact. 

It is your fact, not mine. (😉)

4 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

It is your fact, not mine. (😉)

It's not mine nor yours, its just plain old fact. 60 fps capture more details, it also captures movement better. (movement is key right, when simulating flight)

Frames per second tell you how fast the image on your screen changes, so a higher frame rate means things will look smoother and more fluid. In short, 30 fps means that 30 still images will be shown every second, while 60 fps means that 60 still images will be shown every second. <<< This is not my opinion, it is a fact. 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

2 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Its not mine nor yours, its juts  plain old fact.

Frames per second tell you how fast the image on your screen changes, so a higher frame rate means things will look smoother and more fluid. In short, 30 fps means that 30 still images will be shown every second, while 60 fps means that 60 still images will be shown every second.

Thank you for mansplaining it to me. I can only go by my direct experience and non-bionic eyes. 

2 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Its not mine nor yours, its juts  plain old fact.

Frames per second tell you how fast the image on your screen changes, so a higher frame rate means things will look smoother and more fluid. In short, 30 fps means that 30 still images will be shown every second, while 60 fps means that 60 still images will be shown every second.

I would say drop it... its an old and hopeless lost battle 🙂

If they enjoy 30 fps and lower GPU temp, i say enjoy. I know i would never ever go to flying below 60 fps. 

Not to mention i use Tobii for headtracking and anything below 57 fps is a big no no for me and for my stomach 🙂

 

 

1 minute ago, roi1862 said:

I would say drop it... its an old and hopeless lost battle 🙂

I swear some of them still have manual chokes in their cars. 🙂 

Just now, Ianrivaldosmith said:

 

I swear some of them still have manual chokes in their cars. 🙂 

lollllll 🤣

All these driving references - I don't get it? 

BTW, I don't drive so they are lost on me 😶

1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

 

I swear some of them still have manual chokes in their cars. 🙂 

I'm actually interested in reading more about this.  (100% serious).  Do you have any links with more information on this?  I know the old 24fps thing is based on old tech.  but I didn't know there was a hard and fast number (60fps) that is set in stone.

14 minutes ago, GoranM said:

I'm actually interested in reading more about this.  (100% serious).  Do you have any links with more information on this?  I know the old 24fps thing is based on old tech.  but I didn't know there was a hard and fast number (60fps) that is set in stone.

https://www.cae.com/news-events/press-releases/cae-launches-cae-tropos-6000xr-visual-image-generator-for-civil-aviation-tr/

 

 

Running at 60 FPS....

 

https://issuu.com/halldale/docs/cat_4_2013

Page 18-19 (They're even talking about 120)

 

And this is all from 2013, ten years ago. So, I wonder what they are using now if they were using 60 FPS back then. 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by Ianrivaldosmith

10 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

 

I swear some of them still have manual chokes in their cars. 🙂 

I still have a manual choke on my 1972 BSA Lightning, my 1990 CBR and my Vauxhall Firenze. So you are correct. Automatic chokes are just awful.🤣

16 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

BTW, I don't drive so they are lost on me 😶

As is 60 FPS 😉

1 minute ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

As is 60 FPS 😉

Not lost, just not needed.