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7950x3D shaping up to demolish the 13900k in MSFS

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On 4/5/2023 at 11:42 AM, turbomax said:

billions of gamers, myself including, thinking the very same. so if it goes as like the launch of the 7950x3D which is still nowhere to be seen, it doesn't look like "in the next weeks" 🤣

Managed to grab one it seems. 🙂

 

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Can't really decide between the 7800X3d or the 7950x3d. For gaming the former seems the obvious choice but it would be nice to have some productivity-muscles as well.

Richard

7950x3d   |   32Gb 6000mHz RAM   |   8Tb NVme   |   RTX 4090    |    MSFS    |    P3D    |      XP12  

On 3/6/2023 at 4:53 PM, FlyIce said:

I just upgraded from 10850K/4090 to 7950x3D/4090 and even this mighty pair could be down to the knees at 25fps when I'm flying low over the NYC skyscrapers

If you haven't already, you might want to seriously consider nuking your boot drive and installing Windows fresh. I got the 5900X3D and a 3070Ti, and absolutely didn't want to reinstall Windows. But I finally bit the bullet and performance improved markedly. I don't have the settings up completely full, but most are on ultra, a few on high and just a couple on medium and I'm pretty smooth flying in and out of LaGuardia in VR. 

 

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Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light

On 4/7/2023 at 8:57 AM, eslader said:

If you haven't already, you might want to seriously consider nuking your boot drive and installing Windows fresh. I got the 5900X3D and a 3070Ti, and absolutely didn't want to reinstall Windows. But I finally bit the bullet and performance improved markedly. I don't have the settings up completely full, but most are on ultra, a few on high and just a couple on medium and I'm pretty smooth flying in and out of LaGuardia in VR. 

 

Was that your post over on the MSFS forum? If so, it's very helpful.

 

On 4/7/2023 at 6:05 AM, Swe_Richard said:

Can't really decide between the 7800X3d or the 7950x3d. For gaming the former seems the obvious choice but it would be nice to have some productivity-muscles as well.

I was thinking the same thing initially, but reading different flight sim  forums, I decided to go with the 7950x3D. The reason is because I use quite a few background applications that can take advantage of the "parked" cores leaving MSFS to use those precious V-Cached ones. Background apps like the Varjo Base, Volanta, vPilot or FSLTL injector, AI FLow, Simbridge, vatSPy, MCE, and a bunch of other stuff like Discord and the web browser. From what others are saying, if you don't plan on running many background applications, the 7800 would be the way to go. I don't really want to leave anything to chance, and this CPU may last a LONG time. Heck, look at the guys with the 5800x3D's. A lot of them aren't upgrading their CPU anytime soon, and that was released late in the last generation. I'm sure that waiting another generation or two would certainly allow one to run MSFS at a native 60 FPS in every situation with TLOD at 400....but I don't want to wait another 3-4 years for that. Hardware right now is pretty d*amn good.

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25 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Was that your post over on the MSFS forum? If so, it's very helpful.

Do you have a link to it?

Eric 

 

 

1 hour ago, V1ROTA7E said:

I was thinking the same thing initially, but reading different flight sim  forums, I decided to go with the 7950x3D. The reason is because I use quite a few background applications that can take advantage of the "parked" cores leaving MSFS to use those precious V-Cached ones. 

Yup. My sentiment as well. Ordered the 7950x3D with the 4090. Going to be glorious. 🤪🥹

Richard

7950x3d   |   32Gb 6000mHz RAM   |   8Tb NVme   |   RTX 4090    |    MSFS    |    P3D    |      XP12  

With 7950x3d;

You could set the scheduler in your bios to always "prefer cache". Most games like that the most. Some of your apps might get a hit in performance, but if gaming is the most important, that might still be a good setting.

lmportant for scheduling v cache cores.

C. Uygar

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10 hours ago, V1ROTA7E said:

Was that your post over on the MSFS forum? If so, it's very helpful.

No, but that's the post that finally convinced me to pull the trigger!

 

Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light

On 4/11/2023 at 11:27 AM, Swe_Richard said:

Yup. My sentiment as well. Ordered the 7950x3D with the 4090. Going to be glorious. 🤪🥹

Got everything installed last night, and WOW, it's really great. I had to get a new case though since the one I ordered was too small. Kinda glad though because now I have an excuse to get the case I really wanted. Should be arriving tomorrow. Performance wise, it's a huge step up from the 11900K. I was already using frame generation with the old system and 4090, but now I'm able to run 250 TLOD with better frames. Unfortunately my GSYNC monitor died some months ago, so I think i'll get a new one here shortly. Otherwise, on my 60hz monitor with everything locked at 60 and frame generation on, i have not once dropped below 60fps. Modest FSLTL settings, in New York with the Fenix....blown away.

AMD 9950X3D | 64 GB RAM | RTX 5090

FMR: 747 FO, 757/767 CAPT, 737 Check Airman
Current 777 CAPT

 

Peloto just uploaded this benchmark video:13900K + 4090, no FrameGeneration, @ 1K resolution:

 

 

AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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11 hours ago, turbomax said:

Peloto just uploaded this benchmark video:13900K + 4090, no FrameGeneration, @ 1K resolution:

A 4090 running at 1920*1080!!!! I despair. Like driving a Ferrari at 30mph. 🙄

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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7 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

A 4090 running at 1920*1080

that's how all CPU benchmarks are run, and 1K without FrameGeneration OFF @ 80-90 fps = the same @ 4K WITH FrameGeneration ON, as we have shown previously. someone who can afford a 4090 + 13900K will surely have a monitor slightly above 1K. 😃

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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1 minute ago, turbomax said:

that's how all CPU benchmarks are run, and 1K without FrameGeneration OFF @ 80-90 fps = the same @ 4K WITH FrameGeneration ON, as we have shown previously.

To ensure the GPU is not the bottleneck I presume. But in reality users should be running 4K with a 4090.

Ray (Cheshire, England).

System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

users should be running 4K with a 4090

trust me, we forty niners know. 😃 again, he was bench marking. and is waiting for 7800x3D equivalent testing. my 7800x3D is on the way (and 2.000 more from the same dealer today), waiting to be bench marked, and to be actually flown from time to time, bench marking permitting.

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AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090,  Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler.

60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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