7950x3D shaping up to demolish the 13900k in MSFS

[Ianrivaldosmith 5,317]

4 hours ago, spitzer45 said:

maybe with ai traffic it will goes down to 30 fps. It looks like that we are far from our 60 fps dream...

Just turn frame generation on then? then you'll be minimum 60 FPS and roughly around 82...It's a reality, not a dream. Use your hardware as it was intended to be used! 

I am not sure why so many people are so averse to this? It's THE main benefit of owning a 4090! 

[spitzer45 99]

50 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Just turn frame generation on then? then you'll be minimum 60 FPS and roughly around 82...It's a reality, not a dream. Use your hardware as it was intended to be used! 

I am not sure why so many people are so averse to this? It's THE main benefit of owning a 4090! 

I have 4090 and 10700k too. if actual fps goes below 30's it will stutters badly even with frame generation. Because you will be very cpu limited, not gpu.

[turbomax 3,268]

6 hours ago, spitzer45 said:

maybe with ai traffic it will goes down to 30 fps. It looks like that we are far from our 60 fps dream...

maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300?

[spitzer45 99]

35 minutes ago, turbomax said:

maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300?

But when you approach the airport if it is cpu limited it will stutters while loading scenery. As you said Tlod may be changed with altitudes just like in p3d days. This setting is very heavy at cpu.

Edited March 8, 2023 by spitzer45

[micstatic 4,309]

On 3/8/2023 at 8:05 AM, turbomax said:

maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300?

to me, FPS is even more important on the ground.  Taxiing a large airline making a wide turn is not fun if stuttering. 

[turbomax 3,268]

28 minutes ago, micstatic said:

to me, FPS is even more important on the ground.  Taxiing a large airline making a wide turn is not fun if stuttering. 

I wouldn't call 42 fps while taxiing stuttering. if it does, there will a $ 449 solution:  7800x3D or 7950x3D - 30% more performance than your current 5800x3D in MSFS. and that's without 4090's FrameGeneration.

Edited March 10, 2023 by turbomax

[micstatic 4,309]

3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I wouldn't call 42 fps while taxiing stuttering. if it does, there will a $ 449 solution:  7800x3D

My point was that for me I notice FPS even more on the ground than in the air

[turbomax 3,268]

understood, but with your high end system and FrameGeneration ON?

[Ray Proudfoot 8,924]

I turned VSync off with my 1080Ti in 4K and the fps increased to the mid 40s when taxiing. But there were lots of micro stutters because the GPU was running at 100%.

When I turned VSync back on the frame rates dropped to 30 matching my monitor refresh rate but importantly there were no micro stutters and the sim (P3Dv5) was ultra smooth.

Lesson? Higher frame rates does not always equal a smoother sim.

[turbomax 3,268]

13 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Lesson? Higher frame rates does not always equal a smoother sim.

Higher frame rates combined with constant frame times does always equal a smoother sim, unfortunately P3Dv5 can't use Frame generation etc.

 

Edited March 11, 2023 by turbomax

[Ray Proudfoot 8,924]

10 minutes ago, turbomax said:

Higher frame rates combined with constant frame times does always equal a smoother sim, unfortunately P3Dv5 can't use Frame generation etc.

 

Yep, fully aware of that. But I’m happy with 30. 😉

[turbomax 3,268]

I am unhappy with 45 in VR, the 7800x3D will hopefully change that soon.

latest reports derived from simulated 7800x3D benchmarks show the 7800x3D within 3 %-6 % performance of the 7950x3D in FS2020. that would explain why they are withholding it until April 6th. 😋

Edited March 11, 2023 by turbomax

[G-RFRY 1,706]

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[GCBraun 2,390]

Just had an issue with my Intel motherboard and decided to anticipate my switch to AM5. Currently using a 7600X as a temporary solution, but hopefully will be able to grab a 7800X3D in the next weeks… 

[turbomax 3,268]

On 3/30/2023 at 8:44 PM, GCBraun said:

hopefully will be able to grab a 7800X3D in the next weeks… 

billions of gamers, myself including, thinking the very same. so if it goes as like the launch of the 7950x3D which is still nowhere to be seen, it doesn't look like "in the next weeks" 🤣