March 8, 20233 yr 4 hours ago, spitzer45 said: maybe with ai traffic it will goes down to 30 fps. It looks like that we are far from our 60 fps dream... Just turn frame generation on then? then you'll be minimum 60 FPS and roughly around 82...It's a reality, not a dream. Use your hardware as it was intended to be used! I am not sure why so many people are so averse to this? It's THE main benefit of owning a 4090!
March 8, 20233 yr 50 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said: Just turn frame generation on then? then you'll be minimum 60 FPS and roughly around 82...It's a reality, not a dream. Use your hardware as it was intended to be used! I am not sure why so many people are so averse to this? It's THE main benefit of owning a 4090! I have 4090 and 10700k too. if actual fps goes below 30's it will stutters badly even with frame generation. Because you will be very cpu limited, not gpu. C. Uygar Aircraft Maint. Engineer. at LTFJ
March 8, 20233 yr 6 hours ago, spitzer45 said: maybe with ai traffic it will goes down to 30 fps. It looks like that we are far from our 60 fps dream... maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300? AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
March 8, 20233 yr 35 minutes ago, turbomax said: maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300? But when you approach the airport if it is cpu limited it will stutters while loading scenery. As you said Tlod may be changed with altitudes just like in p3d days. This setting is very heavy at cpu. Edited March 8, 20233 yr by spitzer45 C. Uygar Aircraft Maint. Engineer. at LTFJ
March 10, 20233 yr On 3/8/2023 at 8:05 AM, turbomax said: maybe with FrameGeneration turned ON @ 82 fps we are far beyond our dream? who needs 60 fps on the ground when there is not much of a flight model to experience? what we might want is some for of dynamically change some of the beauty sliders, extreme settings on the ground that are less relevant at FL 300? to me, FPS is even more important on the ground. Taxiing a large airline making a wide turn is not fun if stuttering. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
March 10, 20233 yr 28 minutes ago, micstatic said: to me, FPS is even more important on the ground. Taxiing a large airline making a wide turn is not fun if stuttering. I wouldn't call 42 fps while taxiing stuttering. if it does, there will a $ 449 solution: 7800x3D or 7950x3D - 30% more performance than your current 5800x3D in MSFS. and that's without 4090's FrameGeneration. Edited March 10, 20233 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
March 10, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, turbomax said: I wouldn't call 42 fps while taxiing stuttering. if it does, there will a $ 449 solution: 7800x3D My point was that for me I notice FPS even more on the ground than in the air 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
March 10, 20233 yr understood, but with your high end system and FrameGeneration ON? AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
March 11, 20233 yr Moderator I turned VSync off with my 1080Ti in 4K and the fps increased to the mid 40s when taxiing. But there were lots of micro stutters because the GPU was running at 100%. When I turned VSync back on the frame rates dropped to 30 matching my monitor refresh rate but importantly there were no micro stutters and the sim (P3Dv5) was ultra smooth. Lesson? Higher frame rates does not always equal a smoother sim. Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
March 11, 20233 yr 13 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said: Lesson? Higher frame rates does not always equal a smoother sim. Higher frame rates combined with constant frame times does always equal a smoother sim, unfortunately P3Dv5 can't use Frame generation etc. Edited March 11, 20233 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
March 11, 20233 yr Moderator 10 minutes ago, turbomax said: Higher frame rates combined with constant frame times does always equal a smoother sim, unfortunately P3Dv5 can't use Frame generation etc. Yep, fully aware of that. But I’m happy with 30. 😉 Ray (Cheshire, England). System: P3D v5.3HF2, Intel i9-13900K, MSI 4090 GAMING X TRIO 24G, Crucial T700 4Tb M.2 SSD, Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Hero, 32Gb Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000Mhz RAM, Win 11 Pro 64-bit, BenQ PD3200U 32” UHD monitor, Fulcrum One yoke, Fulcrum Throttle Quadrant. Cheadle Hulme Weather website.
March 11, 20233 yr I am unhappy with 45 in VR, the 7800x3D will hopefully change that soon. latest reports derived from simulated 7800x3D benchmarks show the 7800x3D within 3 %-6 % performance of the 7950x3D in FS2020. that would explain why they are withholding it until April 6th. 😋 Edited March 11, 20233 yr by turbomax AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
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March 30, 20233 yr Just had an issue with my Intel motherboard and decided to anticipate my switch to AM5. Currently using a 7600X as a temporary solution, but hopefully will be able to grab a 7800X3D in the next weeks… PC1: AMD Ryzen 9800X3D | Zotac RTX 5090 SOLID | Asus TUF X670E-Plus | G.SKILL 64GB DDR5 PC 6000 CL30 | 4TB NVMe | Noctua NH-D15 | Asus TUF 1000W Gold | be quiet! Pure Base 500DX | Noctua NH-D15S | LG OLED CX 48" + 2x Acer Nitro XV240YP 24" + 2x 15.6" Touch-screen Panels PC2: AMD Ryzen 7500F | Asrock 7900 GRE Challenger OC | Gigabyte B650I AX | Corsair 32GB DDR5 6000 CL36 | 1TB NVMe | CM Hyper 212 | Corsair 750W Gold | Lian Li TU150 ITX | SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 49" Winctrl Ursa Minor Sidestick + Ursa Minor 32 Throttle & PAC - Thrustmaster Boeing TCA Yoke - Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog - Honeycomb Bravo Throttle - MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals - TrackIR - Stream Deck XL + Stream Deck Plus - Winctrl MCDU + 2 MFD's - Meta Quest 3 (VR)
April 5, 20233 yr On 3/30/2023 at 8:44 PM, GCBraun said: hopefully will be able to grab a 7800X3D in the next weeks… billions of gamers, myself including, thinking the very same. so if it goes as like the launch of the 7950x3D which is still nowhere to be seen, it doesn't look like "in the next weeks" 🤣 AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
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