9 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

Think a 13900k with a 308 would be good for 4k? My i9-9900k is hurting big time now. 

if you want to push MSFS limits , you will need the 4080-4090 series to activate frame generation. You will have great results with 3080 also but with some limitations ( depends of how much you want push terrain level detail etc). 

1 hour ago, iFlySimX said:

Think a 13900k with a 308 would be good for 4k? My i9-9900k is hurting big time now. 

7800X3D is the much smarter move when it’s released on April 6th. I’m on a 9900k like you but AMD is the new king.

Just now, B777ER said:

7800X3D is the much smarter move when it’s released on April 6th. I’m on a 9900k like you but AMD is the new king.

Could Intel catch up new gen? Always had Intel...Any reason why I wouldn't want to switch?

1 minute ago, B777ER said:

7800X3D is the much smarter move when it’s released on April 6th. I’m on a 9900k like you but AMD is the new king.

 

Just now, iFlySimX said:

Could Intel catch up new gen? Always had Intel...Any reason why I wouldn't want to switch?

Watch the whole video, then let me know.

 

21 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

Always had Intel...Any reason why I wouldn't want to switch?

me too. But Intel is just not the gaming king anymore, why would I NOT switch?

"Could Intel catch up new gen?"

not within the next 12 months, only after they switch to 5 nm production process. they had to cancel Meteor Lake and other future plans for a reason: not competitive against AMD and NVidia. hard to believe but truth be told: check out "moore's law is dead" channel on youtube.

they are desperately trying to beat their poor old 10 nm technology, which they call Intel 7 😉 to insane clock speeds (> 6.0 GHz) with some Raptor Lake refreshes later this year trying to compete with AMDs which perform better in most games at lower clock speeds. I think many of those unsuspecting Intel Raptor Lake users will be disappointed  when they find out how it is throttling down because it can not maintain those extreme clocks on all cores, (heat / cooling issues).

 

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2 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Not sure why. They need to jump off that fence and get a 4 series ahead of a CPU upgrade, unless they're on some ancient CPU. As discussed, frame generation makes a WORLD of difference. 

That’s great for 2D, and I’d have already jumped if I wasn’t so invested in VR. At this point, another 6 months and the 5 series GPUs will probably be releasing. I’m wondering what the better long term upgrade would be, especially for VR. If the 7950x3D can provide upwards of 60 FPS in CPU limited scenarios, then it’s a great upgrade, ahead of the GPU. Most of the time, in 2D I’ll get CPU limited with my 3090 only working at ~60%. 

5 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

That’s great for 2D, and I’d have already jumped if I wasn’t so invested in VR. At this point, another 6 months and the 5 series GPUs will probably be releasing. I’m wondering what the better long term upgrade would be, especially for VR. If the 7950x3D can provide upwards of 60 FPS in CPU limited scenarios, then it’s a great upgrade, ahead of the GPU. Most of the time, in 2D I’ll get CPU limited with my 3090 only working at ~60%. 

I'm sure I could get a bit more out of my 3080 by upgrading my i9-9900k. Not willing to pay $1,600 JUST for a GPU when I am CPU limited.

19 minutes ago, V1ROTA7E said:

another 6 months and the 5 series GPUs will probably be releasing.

Crystal ball? 
Wait forever? 
 

See this so many times. Might not even be here in 5 months time. 

17 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

I'm sure I could get a bit more out of my 3080 by upgrading my i9-9900k. Not willing to pay $1,600 JUST for a GPU when I am CPU limited.

When you make an upgrade to 4090 or 4080 with frame generation enabled, you will not be limited on CPU.

Believe me even with new AMD cpu you will be limited with out frame generation,. So its not just a GPU upgrade.

In a few words and final conclusion ( at least on my setup)  on MSFS: Frame generation for now is the only new technology that allows you to push the limits ( cpu & gpu)

Edited March 6, 20233 yr by Seth2021

9 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

I'm sure I could get a bit more out of my 3080 by upgrading my i9-9900k. Not willing to pay $1,600 JUST for a GPU when I am CPU limited.

I am in a similar situation with an 8800K and a 3080ti.   But even so I am looking at a 4090 in my near future -- it's that good -- runs cooler than my 3080ti, and Frame Generation has no negatives in MSFS I'm told.   I will also be upgrading the rest of the machine...but those specs are To Be Determined.   In your case if the 4090 is too expensive, there is the 4080 and 4070ti.   4070ti is really cut-down though, and outside of Frame Gen may only be on a par with your non-ti 3080.

Also if you run other apps or games that don't behave with Frame Gen (there are some games which have artifacting with FG on, but I've seen no reports of this with MSFS) then that's a consideration also.

And @V1ROTA7E where did you hear about nvidia 5-gen being out in 6 months?  I'd guess at least a year away.

11 minutes ago, Seth2021 said:

When you make an upgrade to 4090 or 4080 with frame generation enabled, you will not be limited on CPU.

Believe me even with new AMD cpu you will be limited with out frame generation,. So its not just a GPU upgrade.

In a few words and final conclusion ( at least on my setup)  on MSFS: Frame generation for now is the only new technology that allows you to push the limits ( cpu & gpu)

I get that but I'm not willing to pay that much for frame generation...I get anywhere from 40 to 50 FPS with a mix of Ultra/High at 4k right now with my i9-9900k & 3080. I don't need to get 80fps with frame gen. I don't have that kind of money to spend on a GPU. Does that make sense?

1 hour ago, V1ROTA7E said:

If the 7950x3D can provide upwards of 60 FPS in CPU limited scenarios

combined with a 4090 you can expect those fps even in VR, perhaps not in the most complex situations but be honest: even 55 fps in VR is wunderbar. if you can not accept anything under 60, well that's what beauty sliders are for. until RTX 5090, and by that time I hope Asobo will yet again have increased graphics, traffic, clouds etc. so that we'll struggle again. pc history repeating itself. 60 fps: catch me if you can. to quote Bill Gates in 1981: "60 fps and 640 KB ought to be enough for anyone".

Edited March 6, 20233 yr by turbomax

3 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

I get that but I'm not willing to pay that much for frame generation...I get anywhere from 40 to 50 FPS with a mix of Ultra/High at 4k right now with my i9-9900k & 3080. I don't need to get 80fps with frame gen. I don't have that kind of money to spend on a GPU. Does that make sense?

Then you are ultra ok with your current setup. No reason for any upgrade

13 minutes ago, iFlySimX said:

I'm not willing to pay that much for frame generation

no need to. there are hardware configurations and slider settings for any budget.

30 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

Might not even be here in 5 months time.

right. normally 24 months between new GPU generations. and "launch" does NOT always mean "available".