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1 hour ago, odourboy said:

But it's a win for AMD.

and for us customers. Don't want to even imagine what Intel would charge for their 13900 K without AMD's Ryzen 7900x3D, to be followed soon by their 8000x3D, probably before Intel's next CPU, now that Intel's Meteor Lake had to be cancelled for lack of competitiveness. it's time again for the game developers to come up with new CPU-heavy effects. who can enjoy their new pc when everybody flies @ 150 fps? 😀

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

very nice.

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2 hours ago, altenae said:

Zero interest in 1080P... zero !!!

it's not about 1080p or 4K, it's about "raw CPU only" performance testing, without any distracting/limiting effects caused by graphics, that's why CPU tests will always include 1080p.

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If you currently have an AM4 board, the 5800X3D is a great improvement for $300 USD. AM5 Motherboards and DDR5 RAM are still expensive. 

I moved my 5900X to another system and replaced it with the 5800X3D.  That cache makes a big difference in Flight Sim.

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

It's not that, man. Testing it on a CPU bound scenario helps you to understand how it will handle situations like KLAX with lots of traffic + Study Level aircraft (PMDG or Fenix for example).

That's the reason I think 1080p helps us (simmers) to understand how much gain we might have and differences between CPUs. When you use GPU bound tests, you won't know that.

The extra cache on my 5800X3d i just put into an AM4 system makes a big difference on the ground at LAX


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1 hour ago, altenae said:

Zero interest in 1080P... zero !!!
 

More power to you. But I don't even have a single 4K display in my house. Not my TV, not my monitor. And I see no reason to change that.

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1 minute ago, Farlis said:

And I see no reason to change that.

But that's the reason, most simmers can clearly see the difference.  If you can't see it, then no reason. BTW, have you always suffered from poor eyesight? 😆

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4 minutes ago, odourboy said:

have you always suffered from poor eyesight?

Basically since I was 8. 😉

Coincidentally I just got a new set of glasses today after 8 years. Quite an improvement. 🤓

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Ryzen 8950x3D vs. Intel 13900K

more power at half the power 😀

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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

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1 hour ago, blueshark747 said:

Focused AMD shilling and hype detected!

"Nearly unbelievable" performance...demolishing 13900ks...RAWRRR!!!

 

Perhaps so people aren't "tRiGerReD" they could change the topic title to match the 5800X3D thread title from last year:

"7950X3D:  Brilliant FS performance"

and in April:

"7800X3D:  Brilliant FS performance"

Wasn't it just last week there was a thread in the hardware forum where the Intel shilling and hype was detected, too?  Here's why that's bad:

I presently run Intel, an old 8700K.  And before that I've run Intel from 1991-2004 and from 2008-present.  But I am not bound to Intel.  I'll go where FS performance takes me.  If that's AMD, fine.  if it's Intel, ok then.  I would think anyone reading this thread would feel the same way, but it takes all kinds to make a world.

What did I have from circa 2005-2007?  An AMD FX57.  It "demolished" Intel in 2005 in FS performance.  But eventually, it too was surpassed.

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Well I am at 4k ultra, so while the 7950X3D is slightly better than my 13900, there is not much value in me swapping motherboard, CPU, and RAM, just to get that much gain. 

So now the info is in, it looks like I would benefit more from a nice 4080 with frame generation, and I have my eye on one, although the prices have nudged up again a little just lately.
I was looking at a card at £1,250 a while ago, but it's now about £1,320.  Next price dip I am going for it!

 

 

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Thing I like about AMD is my 5900x seems to perform well without overclocking.  Every Intel build I had needed to be OC'd to be performant.

Pretty sure I'll go 7950 3Dx for my next build.

AMD GPUs are another thing however.

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27 minutes ago, Sky_Pilot071 said:

Thing I like about AMD is my 5900x seems to perform well without overclocking.  Every Intel build I had needed to be OC'd to be performant.

Pretty sure I'll go 7950 3Dx for my next build.

AMD GPUs are another thing however.

sp

 

AMD's last gen GPU's are pretty solid but i agree that on the GPU front they are pretty hit or miss (for example the card in my sig is has been pretty word not allowed impressive but the new  AMD gpu lineup does not impress) . Bottom line is just to make sure you do your homework when buying stuff and pay the extra when there is value in paying for it.

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Anything above 60fps is pointless. Heck I'm very happy with my 46fps. It's perfectly smooth😁

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29 minutes ago, FBW737 said:

Anything above 60fps is pointless. Heck I'm very happy with my 46fps. It's perfectly smooth😁

Future proofing! Developers just love to eat up all available cycles.

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2 minutes ago, odourboy said:

Developers just love to eat up all available cycles.

because customers just love all available improvements.


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60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking.

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