Mine looks nothing like that.  But anyway.

Aren't they the same screenshots you've been posting for the past several months?

X-Plane 12 has gone through several updates since then.

Edited March 6, 20233 yr by GoranM

And the bickering goes on...

23 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Oh wait, its a turbomax post, panic over I'm fine.

Here's what's weird tho.

I've been using XP12 for over 12 months now, I had never seen the funky stripes in the clouds he posted like they always happen constantly, with no description of how to make them happen.

Then I actually see them for the first time last weekend, even though they only last for <1ms each when panning rapidly against certain clouds. It must have taken serious effort for him to find that so quickly...

same for these clouds he just posted, must have taken serious effort to recreate that, given its so rare.

XP12 can potentially improve even further if we take such posts seriously enough to find out how he got it to happen, and forward the recreates to LR to repair.

30 minutes ago, mSparks said:

XP12 can potentially improve even further if we take such posts seriously enough to find out how he got it to happen, and forward the recreates to LR to repair.

hvala liepo mSparks, that's what I call a helpful contribution. if others have a problem with me being the messenger of bad news, so be it.

I was starting to think already why is no one else reporting this when I get it virtually every time under these conditions:

to be honest, I didn't do anything special. just use real world weather and real date, flying around pacific north west, KFHR, between 4 - 6 p.m. default Cessna 172 or Citation. the last picture, in the Baron, initially looked perfectly normal with a  fog/haze kind of cloud behind the Baron, which began to look awkward when I changed time to slightly later, like 4:30 - 5:30 p.m. I was wondering if it is a special lighting issue with this specific cloud texture.

Like others have said before, I like the natural colors or atmospheric lighting better than in MSFS, that's my biggest reason for coming back after every beta update but unfortunately it hasn't been fixed completely yet.

Edited March 6, 20233 yr by turbomax

15 minutes ago, turbomax said:

to be honest, I didn't do anything special. just use real world weather and real date, flying around pacific north west, KFHR, between 4 - 6 p.m. default Cessna 172 or Citation. the last picture, in the Baron, initially looked perfectly normal with a  fog/haze kind of cloud behind the Baron, which began to look awkward when I changed time to slightly later, like 4:30 - 5:30 p.m. I was wondering if it is a special lighting issue with this specific cloud texture.

you running real weather? I suspect you might just be "unlucky" in that you are flying around places with whatever weather system those clouds are (presume the same as I got for the "gaps" you posted before).

It seems to be one very specific cloud formation that has these issues and I couldnt recreate it afterwards.

clocked in multiple hours testing long haul in the 744 this weekend, saw them once and then never again. not been able to recreate it since (but didnt try "that" hard.)

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just as a side note on this, I still rate Ace Combat 7 as simply the best "sim/game" clouds I have ever seen, always perfect, always impressive. BUT, the reason for that is all the clouds were fully designed by artists, while it always looks great, they also always look exactly the same every time you do a mission.

XP12 (and other sims, DCS and MSFS for sure) don't have that luxury when trying to match the massive variation inherent to real world weather, I dont think we should hijack this thread, I'm afk for XP12 for a day or two now, but lets kick off a thread examining what parts of the weather work and dont, cirrus is marked as a known issue, your above shots are not, and as Goran said above Ive never seen that, quite a significant portion of my flight hours this weekend gone looked absolutely awesome, others not so much.

5 hours ago, turbomax said:

hvala liepo mSparks, that's what I call a helpful contribution.

I really enjoy the turnarounds you do.  From "The clouds look like burning oil refineries.." to a serbo/croat thank you..."hvala lijepo mSparks, that's what I call a helpful contribution."

No one disputed you the very first time you posted those recycled images from several updates ago.  Even though you said the clouds look like that at all hours, but only at twilight.  Which doesn't really make sense.

Be constructive.  Not pessimistic and satirical.  And you'll find reciprocation will be more than forthcoming.

15 hours ago, Murmur said:

Maybe they look a bit too dark for a few minutes during twilight, but I don't think they're as bad as you say:

VS

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully LR can add some detail to the clouds as the sim matures.  Unfortunately I do get a lot of artifacts similar to what tmax has posted.  But the clouds are lacking big time in XP12.... they're just puffs with no detail....   They're like blobs.  I do find the general daytime lighting to have a slight edge over another new sim...  it's the dusk and dawn lighting that needs improvement.  It's a very young sim still - plenty of time to improve - and I do believe LR will accomplish this as time goes on.

I am not sure , but I do feel that sometimes one is in a water bubble with the clouds.

Some cloud variations would be great too. I do like the big cumulus though. 

For me DCS hands down even with no dynamic wx is the best.

There is some inconsistency with the lighting especially dawn / dusk. Just don't want purple sky when there is no icing. at .org there is a lua (graphics4Xp12)  script for dawn / dusk if one wants to try it. 

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/85470-graphics4xp12-by-hakanr339b/

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by Humpty

They need to patch that stupid rain. It was the same in XP11 and still the same in XP12.   Its always the Virga effect.

 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by Humpty

5 hours ago, GoranM said:

I really enjoy the turnarounds you do.  From "The clouds look like burning oil refineries.." to a serbo/croat thank you..."hvala lijepo mSparks, that's what I call a helpful contribution."

My impression of the places you and me have butted horns, it's never really been about X-Plane, Laminar, difference between sims or development, imho it's come down to the different ways users and their criticisms and the problems they face are handled (even things like DRM).

I don't know if you caught any of the last org drama, but it was epic even by my standards (Nicolas gave permission to share our PMs exchange prior to finding out the hard way discord exists... but no need to repeat it here), the org absolutely disgraced themselves beyond words, making the kind of abuse that XA had thrown towards users in the past that made me grumpy look very very mild and light hearted.

It's not just about how good the sim is or how wonderful an experience flying it can provide.

We have a responsibility to put on our captains hats and keep all the passengers calm no matter how large or small the SNAFU, not just throw half of them out the door the minute someone starts hyperventilating.

I see all that gradually changing for the better, first with their developer slack, then with the XP12 launch and now with an official LR discord server, and to top it all off over that period avsim has become the premier xplane forum, recently got the stats to back that up, not least, imho, because the administration here have provided a place where discussing and sharing things X-Plane, good and bad, rough with the smooth, is a wonderful experience:

 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by mSparks

1 hour ago, GoranM said:

I previously just avoided replying, but I'm going to address something.  I highlighted the text I am referring to.  Mark.  Cameron is a very good friend of mine.  XA is the store I have been with for 14 years.  Please take those 2 points into consideration before making any further negative comments about either.  There has been no abuse towards anyone.

Back on topic.

Prior to people sharing their experiences with the TBM900 on here and discord,

still one of my favourite XP11 screenshots (2 years ago according to imgur):

The only exposure I had had to XA was various reactions of people who were talking about their interactions on X-Pilot how very not wonderful that experience had been for them.. and the odd very old discussions regarding gizmo on the org... which I would also file under very not wonderful, and had clearly had large portions of the discussion deleted.

So I'll repeat that last bit I said again, it applies just as much to the text you highlighted as anything else:

3 hours ago, mSparks said:

We have a responsibility to put on our captains hats and keep all the passengers calm no matter how large or small the SNAFU, not just throw half of them out the door the minute someone starts hyperventilating.

I see all that gradually changing for the better, first with their developer slack, then with the XP12 launch and now with an official LR discord server, and to top it all off over that period avsim has become the premier xplane forum, recently got the stats to back that up, not least, imho, because the administration here have provided a place where discussing and sharing things X-Plane, good and bad, rough with the smooth, is a wonderful experience:

I have absolute respect for the content XA has pulled together for X-Plane, a fair bit of insight into a certain very very toxic section of the community that you guys were certainly among the first to have to deal with.

I am just saying that

20 hours ago, GoranM said:

Mine looks nothing like that.  But anyway.

Aren't they the same screenshots you've been posting for the past several months?

X-Plane 12 has gone through several updates since then.

vs

Should be the old way, it's not conducive to fostering a wonderful experience, and let's be part of the solution not part of the problem (which I think we kinda pretty much are?).

 

Edited March 7, 20233 yr by mSparks

8 hours ago, Humpty said:

There is some inconsistency with the lighting especially dawn / dusk. Just don't want purple sky when there is no icing. at .org there is a lua (graphics4Xp12)  script for dawn / dusk if one wants to try it. 

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/files/file/85470-graphics4xp12-by-hakanr339b/

Great! It significantly improves clouds and lighting. It also nicely models the blue hour, something that's missing from any flight sim I've ever tried, and making dusk/twilight lighting completely unrealistic. Some time ago Ben said they have a plan to natively model the blue hour, let's see.

 

2 minutes ago, Murmur said:

Great! It significantly improves clouds and lighting. It also nicely models the blue hour, something that's missing from any flight sim I've ever tried, and making dusk/twilight lighting completely unrealistic. Some time ago Ben said they have a plan to natively model the blue hour, let's see.

 

Wow. That first shot looks like DCS.

Are you using both the lua scripts ? the author mentioned only using one.

The blue hour one looks nice

17 minutes ago, Humpty said:

Wow. That first shot looks like DCS.

Are you using both the lua scripts ? the author mentioned only using one.

The blue hour one looks nice

Only the blue hour one, I love the blue hour and it's also the most common I see in RL, so it's the most realistic for me.

4 minutes ago, Murmur said:

Only the blue hour one, I love the blue hour and it's also the most common I see in RL, so it's the most realistic for me.

Ok, Guess i use the other one, Mumbai is always orangish .