He predicted that in the next twenty to forty years sex will no longer be the method by which most people make babies (“among humans with good health coverage,” he qualified).

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/24/the-future-of-fertility

If we can create babies from skin cells what else can we do with laboratory created people?  Can we make them competitive with computer created robots?

Noel

50 minutes ago, birdguy said:

If we can create babies from skin cells what else can we do with laboratory created people?  Can we make them competitive with computer created robots?

Sadly, "laboratory created people" would most likely become a new "slave class" at worst, being they would be different from those who were "natural born." They might be considered as subservient chattel at best.

14 minutes ago, n4gix said:

Sadly, "laboratory created people" would most likely become a new "slave class" at worst, being they would be different from those who were "natural born." They might be considered as subservient chattel at best.

Or we get Khan...

56 minutes ago, goates said:

Or we get Khan...

KHAN !!!!

 

4 hours ago, birdguy said:

If we can create babies from skin cells what else can we do with laboratory created people?  Can we make them competitive with computer created robots?

The potential societal reaction to lab-grown humans is difficult to predict, as it would depend on a variety of factors, including the specific circumstances of their creation, the purpose for which they were created, and the prevailing cultural, religious, and ethical beliefs of the society in question.

If lab-grown humans were created for therapeutic purposes, such as growing organs for transplantation, they may be viewed more favorably than if they were created purely for experimental or commercial purposes. However, regardless of their intended purpose, the creation of lab-grown humans is likely to be met with significant controversy and debate, as it raises a host of ethical, moral, and legal questions.

There is also a risk that lab-grown humans could be viewed as sub-human or devalued in some way, particularly if they are perceived as being fundamentally different from naturally-conceived humans. This could lead to discrimination, marginalization, or even violence towards lab-grown humans, which would be deeply concerning from an ethical and moral standpoint.

It is important to note that the creation of lab-grown humans is currently illegal in most countries, and any attempts to do so would be subject to strict regulatory oversight and ethical scrutiny. Therefore, any discussion of the societal reaction to lab-grown humans is purely speculative at this point.

8 hours ago, birdguy said:

He predicted that in the next twenty to forty years sex will no longer be the method by which most people make babies

Is he trying to predict that in twenty to forty years most couples will be transgendered?  

This isn't about creating a race of subservient humans, it's about making sure the human race doesn't die out once no one is able to have babies biologically any more due to surgery.  Or to let people believe that it's ok to be altered as you can still have children.  Given the woke politics involved I have to doubt the claims of the article.

I doubt people are going to give up having sex, and doing that will still produce babies.  In fact, it's likely to remain as popular as ever.

Hook

5 minutes ago, LHookins said:

In fact, it's likely to remain as popular as ever.

It's the "producing babies" bit that's on the decline. Birth rates in some countries are at record low levels.

14 minutes ago, dmwalker said:

It's the "producing babies" bit that's on the decline. Birth rates in some countries are at record low levels.

Fewer planned pregnancies likely due to economic factors that we do not discuss here.

Are those who decry "overpopulation" dancing in the streets yet? 😄  I've been wondering that for the last few years.

Hook

25 minutes ago, LHookins said:

Fewer planned pregnancies likely due to economic factors that we do not discuss here.

But I think increasingly, young folks just don't want to have kids. There is a wide variety of estimates but maybe 10% is realistic. I suppose it varies with the different age groups. 

Clones for the Clone Wars.

21 hours ago, n4gix said:

Sadly, "laboratory created people" would most likely become a new "slave class" at worst, being they would be different from those who were "natural born." They might be considered as subservient chattel at best.

 

If they were superior to us, rather than slaves, the masters. Clone wars! 😲

 

18 hours ago, n4gix said:

If lab-grown humans were created for therapeutic purposes, such as growing organs for transplantation, they may be viewed more favorably than if they were created purely for experimental or commercial purposes.

 

Doubt they would be viewed favorably. It would depend on what a lab grown human was, whether it possessed a fully functioning central nervous system, a brain, conciseness, sentience, intelligence. I think the reaction would be negative, it would be regarded as immoral. 

 

18 hours ago, n4gix said:

It is important to note that the creation of lab-grown humans is currently illegal in most countries, and any attempts to do so would be subject to strict regulatory oversight and ethical scrutiny. Therefore, any discussion of the societal reaction to lab-grown humans is purely speculative at this point.

 

Its also technically impossible at this point in time, for now. But all it takes, in the future, regardless of what most civilized nations dictate, is for a rogue entity to ignore what everyone else does, ignore morality, ignore any danger posed... and do it anyway. Same applies to risky versions of nanotechnology, planet killing weapons', super advanced, sentient AI or anything else. 

19 hours ago, n4gix said:

If lab-grown humans were created for therapeutic purposes, such as growing organs for transplantation

No need for all the bother of growing humans. It's quicker and easier to grow organs directly from human cells:

"For example, a small number of people are actually walking around with fully-grown, functioning bladders made from their own cells. These are produced in a lab by growing the patient’s own bladder cells and then 3D-printing them into the correct shape. It’s then surgically implanted into the patient. This process takes around two months to complete. But since these are grown from the patient’s own cells, it removes the risk of the body rejecting the new organ."

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/lab-grown-blood-used-transfusion-first-time-here-are-three-other-ways-making-organs#:~:text=Fully-grown organs&text=These are produced in a,around two months to complete.

Edited April 23, 20233 yr by dmwalker