May 21, 20233 yr Administrators https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/plane-crash-pacific-ocean-coast-half-moon-bay/3234228/ The plane crashed about 40 miles west of Half Moon Bay. It was a Viking Air DHC-6-400 Twin Otter. Now the route it was flying was from Santa Rosa, Ca. to Honolulu, Ha. I was checking the specs on that aircraft and even with extended fuel tanks, the range is about 950 miles. How many fuel stops and where would they be between San Francisco and Hawaii?? 🤔 Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
May 21, 20233 yr They fill the cabin with additional fuel tanks. http://www.worldwideferry.com/ferry-tanks.html https://youtu.be/Wv1gGCP0-U8
May 21, 20233 yr They can add fuel tanks or bladders in the cabin for ferry flights. Pete Richards I've owned every version of flight simulator since Flight Simulator 3.0 in 1988. Windows 11 Pro loaded on a 4TB Gen5 Crucial T700 SSD, 4TB Samsung 990 Pro SSD, Ryzen 9 7950x3d, AS Rock X670e Taichi Motherboard, Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4090 OC 24GB, 64GB (2x32GB) Viper Venom DDR5-6000MT/s, MSI 32" MAG 321UPX QD-OLED 260hz 4K Gaming Monitor.
May 21, 20233 yr Author Administrators I would figure the aircraft would be very heavy trying to carry that much extra fuel in bladders and/or ferry tanks. Wonder if they will determine what caused it to go down? Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
May 22, 20233 yr While the normal operating MTOW is 12,500 lbs, for ferry flights they are certified for up to 17,500 lbs. Being this is a -400 model, it is a relatively new plane.
May 22, 20233 yr Baby aircraft are ferried all the way from the UK to US. Up to Wick in Scotland. Iceland. Greenland. Then Canada and down to the US. And in reverse of course.
May 22, 20233 yr 5 hours ago, martin-w said: Baby aircraft are ferried all the way from the UK to US. Up to Wick in Scotland. Iceland. Greenland. Then Canada and down to the US. And in reverse of course. The distance from the west coast of North America to Hawaii is a bit longer than any of those legs hopping across the Atlantic though.
May 22, 20233 yr 11 minutes ago, goates said: The distance from the west coast of North America to Hawaii is a bit longer than any of those legs hopping across the Atlantic though. https://www.theautopian.com/heres-how-a-pilot-flew-a-little-cessna-172-over-18-hours-nonstop-from-california-to-hawaii/ Dugald Walker
May 22, 20233 yr Author Administrators 14 minutes ago, goates said: The distance from the west coast of North America to Hawaii is a bit longer than any of those legs hopping across the Atlantic though. About 2393 miles worth! 🤔 Charlie AronAVSIM Board of Directors-ADMIN/Moderator-RegistrarJust going to run a Chromebook and not upgrade to a Windows computer. Too many problems with the new Sims! 😱Trying to keep peace and harmony and the will of Landru on the site seems to be a full time job!
May 22, 20233 yr 20 minutes ago, dmwalker said: https://www.theautopian.com/heres-how-a-pilot-flew-a-little-cessna-172-over-18-hours-nonstop-from-california-to-hawaii/ Just found that myself. 2190 miles. 18 hour flight. The additional fuel tank took up most of the room the pilot wasn't occupying himself. There must be plenty of light aircraft over there in Hawaii, so they obviously manage to get them there. I wonder what the smallest aircraft is they managed to get there.
May 22, 20233 yr Here's a video of Hawaii to California with a bit more detail on the preparations and the potential problems, one of which is that, if they had had a problem right after takeoff, they would have had to fly for 8 hours just to get down to the maximum landing weight. This was mentioned in another video in the series: Edited May 22, 20233 yr by dmwalker Dugald Walker
May 22, 20233 yr Sounds like they had fuel problems and had turned back. Quote The plane flew southwest for about two hours before turning around about 10:40 a.m., according to tracking by Flightradar. They were running low on fuel and later would report “a fuel transfer system malfunction,” according to Stuckey. https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/news/2-dead-after-plane-that-took-off-from-santa-rosa-crashes-40-miles-off-half/
May 22, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, goates said: The distance from the west coast of North America to Hawaii is a bit longer than any of those legs hopping across the Atlantic though. The US west coast to Hawaii is among the longest overwater routes in the world without an enroute divert option. On North Atlantic crossings you have Iceland...Mid Atlantic there's the Azores and Cape Verde Islands, North Pacific there's Adak and Shemya Islands, South Pacific has lots of island options (Johnston, Wake, Midway, Marshall Islands etc). But from San Francisco to the big island there's nothing but open water. I wonder if there was any kind of backup on that fuel transfer system. Banking on one set of pumps/valves sounds crazy to me... Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
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