June 19, 20232 yr Could anybody please be so kind and summarize any new information regarding future XP12 developments (if discussed) after the intrview has ended? Edited June 19, 20232 yr by Bjoern 7950X3D + 7900 XT + 64 GB + Linux | 4800H + RTX2060 + 32 GB + Linux My add-ons from my FS9/FSX days
June 19, 20232 yr very pleasant interview tbh. Not so much "new" stuff for anyone paying attention, but a great wish list of things that I think echos most peoples feelings. Lot at the beginning about new road stuff sounds awesome, but a bit of a cringe moment when he went to draw it on some paper. ftlog make a slide deck like the rest of us, libreoffice is great for that these days. AutoATC Developer
June 19, 20232 yr It was a terrible interview because of the questions TBH. Rather than asking informative questions about xplane, many were simply aimed at bashing MSFS. This interview is a wasted opportunity to learn more about the future of xplane. I didn't learn anything new from it. It may seem a bit harsh, but it could have been way better. Main Xplane Points: Austin wants road/taxiways to blend more seamlessly with the world in the future. He wants xplane to better multi-threading rather than being so reliant on one core. F4 Phantom isn't quite done, there is aways something more pressing coming up. They want to do regional housing using OSM data. Austin is still not interested in satellite imagery. Creating great graphics is hard and the team has expanded to 25 members MSFS related point:Interviewer felt the need to bash MSFS. A lot of the questions seemed aimed at getting Austin to do the same. Essentially, are you frustrated when you type in flight sim on youtube, MSFS shows up Austin says **word not allowed** sells. There are more burger kings than fine restaurants, etc Austin admits he gets a little frustrated because he thinks xplane has a better flight model. Allegedly, if you go into Asobo studios, they have xplane home and are literally copying it in MSFS. Austin was flying MSFS with a friend and they put the airbus into a roll. 😲 MSFS is a glorified google earth viewer. Austin does not want a scenery viewer. Austin said he has used MS to view his house and it was the most pathetic experience. Blurry radar mesh. He says Microsoft is better in some ways if you want to find big landmarks. He hasn't found a way to use satellite images to generate scenery he would ever want. Satellite images has cars, buildings with shadows baked in, etc etc. Always blurry, grainy, low resolution. Cannot get excited about it. Lack of Regional accent in MSFS is immersion killer according to the interviewer. Edited June 19, 20232 yr by brinx Flight Sim PC - OS: Windows 11 Pro. CPU: i9-13900K. RAM: 64GB. GPU: NVidia RTX 4090 OCFlight Sim Xbox - Seriex X, 3TB
June 19, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, brinx said: This interview is a wasted opportunity to learn more about the future of xplane. I didn't learn anything new from it. It may seem a bit harsh, but it could have been way better. X-Plane / Laminar is a very different dynamic to anything most people are used to, with X-Plane "grown up" around Austin and his unwavering passion for flightsim There is none of the focus groups, media and marketing teams, market research and strategic planning etc etc you get from a typical multinational. There also isn't the born and bred CEO whose only experience of the subject matter was the summer camp they did before they were handed the job by a mate from school. Austin is first and foremost an eccentric whose #1 passion is flight simulation, who has succeeded where many have failed to turn that passion into a day job, and be in the enviable position to pay people to fix the things about flight sim he doesn't like. So no questions and answers drafted by committee and signed off by a board of ethics, no flashy slides pulled together by unpaid interns wandering around the shop floor. Its just an interview with one of if not the worlds most passionate flight simmer who also wields enough influence and experience to set the direction X-Plane takes. This interview was much higher level than just "we want new scenery, graphics and aircraft models". It was much more about where does he see X-Planes fit into the genre in 2023 and moving forward. He was candid and thoughtful, none (very little) of the usual crazy which makes him super hard to watch. He repeated: https://austinmeyer.com/ok-this-is-just-plain-funny/ I think that is the first time he as actually spoken rather than just blogged about it. Edited June 19, 20232 yr by mSparks AutoATC Developer
June 19, 20232 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, brinx said: It was a terrible interview because of the questions TBH. Rather than asking informative questions about xplane, many were simply aimed at bashing MSFS. This interview is a wasted opportunity to learn more about the future of xplane. I didn't learn anything new from it. It may seem a bit harsh, but it could have been way better. Main Xplane Points: Austin wants road/taxiways to blend more seamlessly with the world in the future. He wants xplane to better multi-threading rather than being so reliant on one core. F4 Phantom isn't quite done, there is aways something more pressing coming up. They want to do regional housing using OSM data. Austin is still not interested in satellite imagery. Creating great graphics is hard and the team has expanded to 25 members MSFS related point:Interviewer felt the need to bash MSFS. A lot of the questions seemed aimed at getting Austin to do the same. Essentially, are you frustrated when you type in flight sim on youtube, MSFS shows up Austin says **word not allowed** sells. There are more burger kings than fine restaurants, etc Austin admits he gets a little frustrated because he thinks xplane has a better flight model. Allegedly, if you go into Asobo studios, they have xplane home and are literally copying it in MSFS. Austin was flying MSFS with a friend and they put the airbus into a roll. 😲 MSFS is a glorified google earth viewer. Austin does not want a scenery viewer. Austin said he has used MS to view his house and it was the most pathetic experience. Blurry radar mesh. He says Microsoft is better in some ways if you want to find big landmarks. He hasn't found a way to use satellite images to generate scenery he would ever want. Satellite images has cars, buildings with shadows baked in, etc etc. Always blurry, grainy, low resolution. Cannot get excited about it. Lack of Regional accent in MSFS is immersion killer according to the interviewer. Let’s put things into perspective. 1. So you’re saying the interviewer and Austin did, in this interview, the exact same thing the majority of the MSFS community have been doing for the past 30 years. Am I right? And you object to that? 2. Were you expecting a glowing review of MSFS from the CEO of Laminar when asked about certain aspects of MSFS? Most, if not all of what he said about it, is his opinion. Based on usage of the product. You can disagree.
June 19, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, GoranM said: You can disagree. I don't think he went that far this time 🤣 AutoATC Developer
June 19, 20232 yr Hi, I wouldn't say it was good or bad, but I knew most of what was talked about because he has said the same things over and over again. Talking about them is one thing, getting them implemented is another! XP12 is having stutter/performance issues on my 7950x3d with a 4090 board, 6000 ddr5 @ 64gb on a Samsung 990 pro 2TB as it is, now implement some of the added items and I cannot see things getting better for 12's performance. Now take into account those that don't have the latest and greatest hardware, get ready to push those sliders even further left! As far as MSFS2020, it looks good well below 5,000', think Austin is stretching it a bit there! Edited June 19, 20232 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL Former Beta Tester - (for a few companies) - As well as provide Regional Voice Set Recordings Two: AMD-9950X | One: AMD-7950X3D | Three: Asus TUF 4090s | Three: 64GB DDR5 RAM 6000mhz | Three: Cosair 1300 P/S | Three: 990Pro 2TB NVME One: Eugenius ECS2512 - 2.5 GHz Switch | Three: Ice Giant Elite CPU Coolers | Three: 75" 4K UHDTVs | One: Boeing 737NG Flight Deck
June 19, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said: As far as MSFS2020 it looks good well below 5,000 I think he was spot on to reiterate that least with X-Plane you don't have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract to discover that many flight simmers definition of good isn't the common definition of good/acceptable.... Edited June 19, 20232 yr by mSparks AutoATC Developer
June 20, 20232 yr 34 minutes ago, GoranM said: 2. Were you expecting a glowing review of MSFS from the CEO of Laminar when asked about certain aspects of MSFS? Most, if not all of what he said about it, is his opinion. Based on usage of the product. You can disagree. I wasn't expecting a review of MSFS at all. I was just expecting news related to xplane. Stuff like what they are planning for the future. I already knew his opinion beforehand. 38 minutes ago, GoranM said: 1. So you’re saying the interviewer and Austin did, in this interview, the exact same thing the majority of the MSFS community have been doing for the past 30 years. Am I right? And you object to that? Not sure how you can equate the CEO of laminar to the community. 10 minutes ago, mSparks said: I think he was spot on to reiterate that least with X-Plane you don't have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract What are you referring to here? Where did Austin say that? Flight Sim PC - OS: Windows 11 Pro. CPU: i9-13900K. RAM: 64GB. GPU: NVidia RTX 4090 OCFlight Sim Xbox - Seriex X, 3TB
June 20, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, brinx said: What are you referring to here? Where did Austin say that? Austin explained several times the X-Plane demo is free. This means you dont have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract to find some flight simmers are willing to call this good: (and I used to complain XP11 scenery could make your eyes bleed 🙄) Edited June 20, 20232 yr by mSparks AutoATC Developer
June 20, 20232 yr Commercial Member As with any interview, there will be differing opinions. Personally, I thought it was a good interview. I like knowing how some people think and where it all comes from. Edited June 20, 20232 yr by GoranM
June 20, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, mSparks said: This means you dont have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract What is this $150 subscription contract you keep mentioning?
June 20, 20232 yr Just now, chapstick said: What is this $150 subscription contract you keep mentioning? better you don't become familiar with either tbh. AutoATC Developer
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