5 minutes ago, mSparks said:

Austin explained several times the X-Plane demo is free.

Yes. This is true. He said this.

 

24 minutes ago, mSparks said:

reiterate that least with X-Plane you don't have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract to discover that many flight simmers

False. Austin said no such thing.

3 minutes ago, brinx said:

False. Austin said no such thing.

He said "you find out it often looks bad below 5000 feet"

He also heaped praise on DCS.

I dont think he has seen Aces of Thunder on PSVR2 yet.

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by mSparks

14 minutes ago, mSparks said:

He said "you find out it often looks bad below 5000 feet"

Yes. That was already address by @Mike_CFII_MEL

  

46 minutes ago, mSparks said:

X-Plane you don't have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract

This he did not say.

 

5 minutes ago, brinx said:

That was already address by

He said that screenshot I posted was good. 99.999% of people would disagree with him, including Austin and myself.

5 minutes ago, brinx said:

This he did not say.

His exact words were "word not allowed sells". from 20 minutes in.

I just embellished how much it sells for and made the wording more avsim friendly.

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by mSparks

20 minutes ago, mSparks said:

I just embellished how much it sells for and made the wording more avsim friendly.

Lol. I realized. That was definitely AVSIM friendly. That is why I love this site.

1 hour ago, mSparks said:

Austin explained several times the X-Plane demo is free. This means you dont have to pay $150 or sign up to a subscription contract to find some flight simmers are willing to call this good:

(and I used to complain XP11 scenery could make your eyes bleed 🙄)

 

Hi,

 

How early is that photo during MS020 development? I remember seeing this some time ago. One of the reasons I got a full refund day one it was released.

What Austin actually said is "you'll start to find all the errors below 5,000 feet". 20:00 into the video.

MS2020 looks good below 5,000! Also note I can run three 75" monitors on one computer where I cannot run one monitor on one computer without flickers/stutters on XP12.

Austin's true genius lies in getting others to create great airports for free that he gets to include in his payware product, that's genius! Not everything he talked about in that video, one can learn all that over time via training/school.
 

 

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

49 minutes ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

Austin's true genius lies in getting others to create great airports for free that he gets to include in his payware product, that's genius!

Absolutely.  I see MSFS/Asobo is now going to adopt that exact same methodology.  To the excitement of many people.

 

 

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by GoranM

2 hours ago, brinx said:

I wasn't expecting a review of MSFS at all. I was just expecting news related to xplane. Stuff like what they are planning for the future. I already knew his opinion beforehand.

Austin used to be very open about future features for X-Plane.  He doesn't do that anymore.  For reasons obvious to some people.

2 hours ago, brinx said:

Not sure how you can equate the CEO of laminar to the community.

So a CEO can't have an opinion about a competing product?  Please tell me you didn't just assume that.

Didn't like it... Should be better IMO in focusing on what really matters.... Too much time spent on the rendering of stuff that is not compatible with what he claims to be the focus - experience of flight... Streets and how the edges of those as well as of the rws are rendered ?  Is this such an important feature to waste time and resources in ? 

Poor references to the competition... Unnecessary most of what he has to say about MFS, instead of saying more about features like ATC, Weather, more detailed areas of flight dynamics that could really make XP even better... No one can question the quality of XP in terms of some aspects of flight dynamics compared to even DCS World and IL2 GB. IMO XP does flight dynamics way better than most of the competition, that's a fact for me, but then it should get better in areas that could make the difference too and they are closer to it than in previous versions - ATC, Weather... 

They should probably focus in a different type of AI traffic modelling too, IMO...

Well...

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by jcomm

15 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Didn't like it... Should be better IMO in focusing on what really matters.... Too much time spent on the rendering of stuff that is not compatible with what he claims to be the focus - experience of flight... Streets and how the edges of those as well as of the rws are rendered ?  Is this such an important feature to waste time and resources in ? 

Poor references to the competition... very poor...

Well, that's probably why I play MFS 99% of the time these days...

You use MSFS because of Austin's poor references and negative opinions of it??  Please tell me you're not that shallow, Jose.  

58 minutes ago, GoranM said:

You use MSFS because of Austin's poor references and negative opinions of it??  Please tell me you're not that shallow, Jose.  

In order to avoid such misunderstandings I had already updated my post because indeed that's not what I meant... 

I end up spending way more time in mfs because it gives me a better overall experience for playing the aircraft I use the most for it, two airliners. The default functionality and integration for instance with fsipanel and navigraph are also importante, and after having had some hopes about ATC on XP it is getting to a 2nd plane and not being able to satisfy. 

When it comes to default AI Traffic it's even a bigger difference.

And I hear a significant part of the interview talking about the merge of roads with the rest of the scenery... Not to mention the useless references to MFS...

 

 

 

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by jcomm

6 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

How early is that photo during MS020 development? I remember seeing this some time ago.

March 26 2021

Its what happens when you try streaming scenery under 5000 feet and the stream doesn't keep up.

 

Austin should sell his Flight model code to Asobo. Might get a couple of million dollars and be happy.

At the rate other sim is progressing it is foolish to try and compete with only 25 people and stock textures.

Where is the XP in sim store?  Where are the tornado's?  Where are the missions?  Where are the herds of buffalo?

XP is not keeping up.

18 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Austin should sell his Flight model code to Asobo.

You mean Sony.

Although I think they are finished shopping.

18 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Might get a couple of million dollars and be happy.

Pretty clear he is happy already.

20 minutes ago, Greazer said:

Where is the XP in sim store?  Where are the tornado's?  Where are the missions?  Where are the herds of buffalo?

 

 

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Austin should sell his Flight model code to Asobo. Might get a couple of million dollars and be happy.

Do you really think Austin needs a couple million dollars?  Did you not know that Austin donated 4 electric school buses, worth $340 000 each, to 4 different schools, paid for out of his own pocket?  

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

At the rate other sim is progressing it is foolish to try and compete with only 25 people and stock textures.

And yet, he's been competing against the juggernaut that is MSFS, successfully, for 30 years.  You keep making comments like this, and you keep getting proven wrong.  You even went so far as to say you would gladly admit you were wrong if XP12 was ever released.

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Where is the XP in sim store?

No one wants it.  Why would Laminar add it, at significant cost, if developers don't sell through it?

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Where are the tornado's?

You can't be serious!

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Where are the missions?

Ok, it's going too far now.

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Where are the herds of buffalo?

What??!!  Why??

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

XP is not keeping up.

I can see you want to continue the same "my sim is better than your sim" argument.  Especially after you declared you would definitely get MSFS 2024, after watching just 1 trailer for it.  "MSFS 2024 is a GO for me".  

You're putting an incredible amount of faith in an unreleased product, based on one 2 minute trailer, when 2020 still needs many issues addressed.

Regardless how badly you want XP to go away, it isn't.  Perhaps invest your time in the platform that gives you what you want (tornado's, missions and herds of buffalo), and we can get back to enjoying what we want.

Edited June 20, 20232 yr by GoranM