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CYVR Vancouver..OMG....Heaven!

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I guess if I wanted to picture what "Heaven" would look like.....I would like to think it looks like where I flew this evening in FSX! I decided to try flying my Piper Saratoga in a place I've never flown before. I clicked on CYVR (Vancouver International) and just did a quick VFR all around the airport within 20 miles radius. The sky, the mountains in the distance, the city, the roads, the water. Just UNBELIEVABLE. I can't imagine anything more beautiful that I've flown in FSX.I've never personally been to Vancouver, but if you live there, I'm sure that you inhabit one of the most beautiful places on Earth.I am using FEX, Ultimate Terrain, and Cloud Nine. I downloaded Real Weather and flew just before Dusk.I've got to go there in person. Just wanted to share my experience. Try it if you haven't yet.

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I don't have Ultimate Terrain (or Cloud Nine) - if you turn these addons off, does it still good?I've had a little fly around Vancouver and it looked ok, although the city was a tad flat with my settings :(

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The area is beautiful with or without those addons if you crank up FSX in the scenery section. I have everything maxed there except autogen one notch down from max, water 2x and large radius. Beautiful. I am using ASX and XGraphics. I have UTX for the US but not Canada (I had UT for US/Canada for FS9).HP Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 Mhz 3 gig ddrII ram, 8400 GS 256mb, 640gb hd

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Agreed, Vancouver+ is an exceptional add-on if you love to fly in Van. Even though I mostly fly heavies this is the one area where I fly low and slow. I live in the area and have flown in the area in small aircraft and it is truly amazing. Thanks for sharing your experience, I wish there were more posts like this. Brings me back to the simplicity of enjoyment.

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>I wish there were more>posts like this. Brings me back to the simplicity of>enjoyment. I absolutely agree with you and this post definitely has made me look again at Vancouver in FSX. I have actually been to Vancouver on 4 previous occasions (in real life that is) and it is a lovely, picturesque city! Hmmm, I am saving for FTX, GEX, PMDG, Airliner XP and Airsimmer A320 but I am off to look at Vancouver + again.Paul

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Vancouver is heaven on Earth.... when it's not raining that is :-)Bryan

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If the civic strike continues much longer, Jon will have to issue a patch for Vancouver+ to show the overflowing dumpsters.CalCYXX

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>Vancouver is heaven on Earth.... when it's not raining that>is :-)>>Bryan> Agreed, 100%. Unfortunately, it rains, most of the time. YVR is also one of the most beautiful airports I've ever been through....cheers

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CYVR is one of those rare airports where the "airport improvement tax" actually goes to improve the airport. I've been to Rome, Frankfurt, Toronto, Washington DC, Calgary, Edmonton, Montreal, LAX, and a few others. No other airport comes to mind that has so much and such beautiful CULTURE on hand. There are many, many museum-quality art pieces all available for public enjoyment. CYVR is a complete joy to walk around in. Calgary comes in second, as far as civic art is concerned, in my opinion.If you like CYVR in FSX, try some of the local airports out for size: Boundary Bay, Abbotsford, Victoria, Squamish... all of those make great places to visit with a Cessna Skyhawk on a lazy day of VFR flying. Be sure to explore Indian Arm, False Creek, Stanley Park, Mount Seymour, Burnaby Mountain, the Pitt River, Hope, the Delta Superport, Active Pass... the list goes on.And you know what? I would consider Vancouver to be a botched job as far as default FSX scenery goes. It's too flat, Stanley Park is not green enough, downtown is all over the place, the sub-urbs are mixed-up, half the bridges look wrong, there's strange pools of water in Port Coquitlam, and a "Mystery Corner" in False Creek that I've featured in my reviews. Considering that a) Vancouver is almost always at the top (or at least top 3 to 5) of the world's most liveable cities, and :( we're Redmond, Washington's closest largest Canadian neighbour, I would have expected the FSX secenery developers to not make so many mistakes with this beautiful city. For the longest time, MSFS always put an 80-storey high-rise in the middle of Surrey. It turns out they were trying to model the tower of a large cement factory out in the boonies. At least this got fixed. That, and the Alex Fraser Bridge was finally fixed in FS9... don't get me started on all of the MSFS mistakes in Vancouver and the GVRD...Okay, considering all of that above, the Vancouver scenery still looks great, and is what I would consider one of the showcase regions of FSX, if not the real world.Jeff ShylukSenior Staff Reviewer, Avsim

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>"For the longest time, MSFS always put an 80-storey high-rise in>the middle of Surrey. It turns out they were trying to model>the tower of a large cement factory out in the boonies. At>least this got fixed."Hi Jeff,Gee you really know your way around Vancouver, are you taliking about the black tower... yeah they sure got that wrong. And I work for Lafarge Cement which owns that preheater tower (420 feet), we are located about 2 clicks west of the Alex Fraser bridge. It is right along the path to CYVR RWY 26L and 26R and I understand that pilots refer to it as Cape Canaveral. The plant was included in the Vancouver+ addon by Jon Patch and Holger Sandman. They sure did a beautiful job, I mean the entire lower mainland, not just the cement plant. Hehe.Cheers,

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Yes, that's it, the LeFarge plant. LeFarge, the name you need to think of is "LeFarge" for all of your concrete needs. That name again: "LeFarge" (not an ad placement for LeFarge!).The LeFarge factory (thanks for reminding me of the name!) is indeed a great landmark for VFR flying in Vancouver. I didn't know it was called Cape Caneveral, though. If you are heading south on Knight near Marine Drive, I think, or using the East-West Connector, or even if you are on the very south edge of Burnaby, this monstrous construction rises out from surrounding fields like a massive rocket tower. It reminds me more of Baikonur than the Cape, but the name is great!I once sat in a Bell Jetranger (in older MSFS), hovered, and counted the storeys of the Black Tower -- the bizarre skyscraper that got plonked in the middle of the fields. I remember at least 80 storeys, maybe the number was bigger. It does line up with YVR, and so does the Alex Fraser Bridge, referred to as "The Goal Posts": pretend you are a Canadian football, fly between the big posts, and you're nearly lined up with your runway. Of course, the new Shangri La building (no joke) is set to become Vancouver's tallest high-rise. It's just over 60 storeys tall at completion, at around 650 feet tall. It's not that Vancouver has an inferiority complex or anything, we just like tall buildings in the right places. Jeff ShylukSenior Staff Reviewer, Avsim

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Most of my FS flying is in and around the Vancouver/Vancouver Island area. The area is even better with the recently releases FSX Ultimate Terrain for Canada which adds great detail to the coastline and islands.BlairCYOW

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I've really enjoyed learning so much about the Vancouver area. Now I'd love to see some Photorealistic scenery developed for this "slice of Heaven". I'd like to see it as all of you natives have described it. Now, that would be great VFR flying!

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>I would consider Vancouver to be a botched job as far as default FSX scenery goes. Lol :-) You can't have seen (any of) Australia then. Rgds,.....Regards,

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Stan-Thru this forum today I discovered I had missed Fs earth tile:http://www.fspassengers.com/forum/read.php?f=9&i=4634&t=4634It allows you to generate photo real scenery for any area with little know how other than editing the config file-it even places the compiled scenery in your add on scenery folder-very slick!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Thanks, Geofa.I'll play with that and see how it turns out.Stan

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Is there any way to put AutoGen on top of that scenery created by FSEarthTiles?Thanks in advance,Etienne :-wave

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Ummmm, Vancouver (or Seattle) didn't even make the list below... I live in Vancouver, and rain is infinitely more desireable than snow, tonadoes, hurricanes or drought.The World record point rainfall values that are given below have been collated by the World Meteorological Organization and are published in the Guide to Hydrological Practises(1994), 5th edition, WMO No. 168. Duration (mm) Location Date 1 min 38 Barot, Guadeloupe 26 Nov 1970 8 126 Fussen, Bavaria 25 May 1920 15 198 Plumb Point, Jamaica 12 May 1916 20 206 Curtea-de-Arges, Romania 7 Jul 1889 42 305 Holt, USA 22 Jun 1947 60 401 Shangdi, Nei Monggol, China 3 Jul 1975 2.17 hours 483 Rockport, USA 18 Jul 1889 2.75 559 D'Hanis, USA 31 May 1935 4.5 782 Smethport, USA 18 Jul 1942 6 840 Muduocaidang, China 1 Aug 1977 9 1,087 Belouve, La R

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Is there a chart for "most consistently annoying nonstop drizzle"?Probably no point if there were, Vancouver would always be at the top. As I sit here playing FSX and browsing forums I look past my monitor at my beautiful view of.... rain. Downtown Van is in there somewhere... I think. ;)

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Come one, now, all this complaining about the rain and the fog is pointless! Everybody knows that when you reduce the draw distance and level of detail, you get a big boost in frame rates! The drive into town this morning was absolutely butter smooth and stutter free, and without the sun effect or the god rays, I didn't need to turn on bloom, which just boosted the frame rate even more. Out East in Newfoundland, they have a wonderful term for this type of weather: RDF. Rain Drizzle Fog. So, we're not the only ones to get it. As a matter of fact, when in St. John's, be sure to visit the RDF Lounge on George Street, it's retro urban-funk in the middle of Celtic bar country. Although when the weather is RDF, some Celtic melodies, a good scoff 'n' scuff, and a stein of QV goes a long way to making the grey weather blues go away...If you like picturesque bush flying in FSX, St. John's can be a good base of operations, too. There's not as many bush operators in Newfoundland as there are in BC (I think), but I am told there is a fair amount for a pilot to do in a Maule or a Beaver. Certainly, you can visit CYYT, and travel from there to Labrador, Quebec, Nova Scotia, PEI, or even to St. Pierre in France (bring your passport). Views are beautiful of the historical St. John's Harbour overlooked by the famous Signal Hill, where Marconi successfully sent his first transatlantic wireless signal. Zip over to historic Quidi Vidi (great beer, tiny brewery) and go spotting for rogue icebergs. Fly east to Cape Speare, the easternmost point of land in North America. Wonder in awe at the simple beauty of Petit Bay, or travel out to Bay Bulls, a town that can trace its bloody, war-torn history back to the 1600's. Watch out that you don't fly too close to the Witless Bay Ecological Reserve, or you may disturb the thousands upon thousands of sea birds that call this place home. Wing your way west, and pass over Bell Island in picturesque Conception Bay. Everywhere you point your camera, your pictures will look like a postcard, and every restaurant you stop in will have the friendliest staff and the best fish & chips you've ever tasted -- until you try the next one (unless you get to Velma's, back in St. Johns. That one is the best, no argument will persuade me otherwise!). Bell Island has what the locals claim to be the only land-based gun to fire in anger in North America during WWII: they were trying to hit a German U-Boat that sank several ore tenders off the rocky coast of the island. You can see the wrecks to this day. Also, if you fly near the southern shore, be sure to triple-check your instruments, as there has been freakish and unexplainable explosive ball lightning events that hit Bell Island -- sightings so strange that they reportedly attracted the attention of secret investigators from both the US and USSR military. Certainly, this is a place to avoid is you love your IFR instruments, but it's one of the best places to gaze out of the cockpit window and marvel at the wonders of nature, or failing that, be charmed by the virtual landscape in FSX.Jeff ShylukSenior Staff Reviewer, Avsim

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>>I've never personally been to Vancouver, but if you live>there, I'm sure that you inhabit one of the most beautiful>places on Earth.That's because you have never been to Devon UK ;-)

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